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Apr 14 2022 11:46pm
Quote (dro94 @ Apr 15 2022 12:43am)
We've already debunked the 'Ukraine are nazis' propaganda about 100 times in this thread, pointing to the low membership nunbers in nazi organisations relative to Ukraine's population as well as far right parties only gaining 2-3% of the vote. There is more evidence of WMD's in Iraq


There was no brigade of WMDs actively used in a war zone in iraq, no WMDs elected to high office, no WMDs spraying their proud WMD status over social media.
Saying 'ukraine are nazis is debunked' is like saying 'us giving weapons to al qaeda in syria is debunked'
I sure 'member that.

Ukraine already topped the ADL100 reports prior to the war and we were inundated with media reports about how Nazis had a foothold in Ukraine and were openly recruiting and so widespread they controlled parts of the government. All that reporting has to be brushed over as inconvenient now.
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Apr 14 2022 11:48pm
Quote (dro94 @ Apr 14 2022 11:43pm)
We've already debunked the 'Ukraine are nazis' propaganda about 100 times in this thread, pointing to the low membership nunbers in nazi organisations relative to Ukraine's population as well as far right parties only gaining 2-3% of the vote. There is more evidence of WMD's in Iraq


Lol, you haven't debunked squat. There are dozens of fresh pictures comin' outta Mariupol daily with tons of these Nazi freaks covered in Swastikas and Black Sun tats.

Tell me how that's possible if there are no nazi's?

This post was edited by chopstickz777 on Apr 14 2022 11:48pm
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Apr 14 2022 11:52pm
Oh man, I'm reading an interview from our favorite "Cossack" and he tells the world his role in the squad is to use an RPG on enemy targets.

But he just told the Russians in captivity that he "didn't do any fighting."

And he's been there for 3 years. This dude is lying through his teeth.

What a complete and total moron. Unless he gets exchanged, he is going to be in DPR jail for a Looooong time.
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Apr 14 2022 11:59pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Apr 14 2022 10:48pm)
Lol, you haven't debunked squat. There are dozens of fresh pictures comin' outta Mariupol daily with tons of these Nazi freaks covered in Swastikas and Black Sun tats.

Tell me how that's possible if there are no nazi's?



hey man when you come up for air after you're done rimming Putin, maybe you should turn on the news and realize you've been reading a fantasy story.
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Apr 15 2022 12:09am
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Apr 15 2022 05:48am)
Lol, you haven't debunked squat. There are dozens of fresh pictures comin' outta Mariupol daily with tons of these Nazi freaks covered in Swastikas and Black Sun tats.

Tell me how that's possible if there are no nazi's?


Of course there are nazis in Ukraine, just like there are nazis in your mother Russia, or the US, UK etc

The key distinction is to what extent, meaning 1) how many are there relative to the population size; and 2) how much power do they hold politically

On point 1), we know from membership of groups like Azov that there isn't many of them. Across all neo-nazi groups in Ukraine, there are under 20,000 members, relative to a population of 40 million

Regarding point 2), neo-nazi groups only receive 2-3% of the popular vote despite Ukraine being at war since 2014 which generally increases ultranationalism, so they are not a political force in Ukraine

This post was edited by dro94 on Apr 15 2022 12:10am
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Quote (dro94 @ Apr 14 2022 11:09pm)
Of course there are nazis in Ukraine, just like there are nazis in your mother Russia, or the US, UK etc

The key distinction is to what extent, meaning 1) how many are there relative to the population size; and 2) how much power do they hold politically

On point 1), we know from membership of groups like Azov that there isn't many of them. Across all neo-nazi groups in Ukraine, there are under 20,000 members, relative to a population of 40 million

Regarding point 2), neo-nazi groups only receive 2-3% of the popular vote despite Ukraine being at war since 2014 which generally increases ultranationalism, so they are not a political force in Ukraine


and then theres this



Russian rally for the war using half a swastika.
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Apr 15 2022 12:29am
If Nazis like the Azov battalion were actually a small fringe in Ukraine, they wouldn't have such an outsized representation in Ukrainian military posts and social media and reports of troop actions, and the government would just disavow them rather than take the geopolitical liability. Pretty much all the outlets reporting on them from 2021 and prior were pointing out how they were mainstream to the point of controlling local governments. Then we have to do this ridiculous tapdance around the inconvenient facts now that we're funneling them weapons to fight the Russians, so I get to watch the same redditors who spent years talking about how they want to punch nazis in the face, now cheering posts by the Azov battalion openly bragging about war crimes like torturing and executing POWs. Posts from the pro-Ukrainian side, not some psy-op by Russian disinformation. I believe the wackos when they post it themselves.

Anyone who paid even the slightest bit of attention to the Syrian War shouldn't be surprised in the least. We propped up radicalized sunni militias to fight Assad in a sectarian war. We had Hillary Clinton harping on about 'moderate pro-democracy groups' while the ISIS, al qaeda and other regressive fundamentalist extremists we were sending anti-tank missiles to, were lopping the heads off children and screaming allahu akbhar. And we couldn't cover it up because they were bragging about it on social media and posting videos of it. That's the thing about groups like ISIS and the Azov Battalion and other extremists, they are true believers, they aren't ashamed or playing coy. You want to know who a Nazi is, you see who's waving a Nazi flag, because they want to let you know who they are so badly some of them tattoo swastikas to their forehead. Well Ukraine has no shortage of them.

Is there any other overtly nazi standing military force anywhere on the planet? I don't want to give a free pass to serbia or whatever

This post was edited by Goomshill on Apr 15 2022 12:29am
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case in point;

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and then theres this

https://i.imgur.com/72YQUw7.jpg

Russian rally for the war using half a swastika.


Those aren't nazi's, those are my bro's
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you know pard has gotten fucking bad when people like dro have to argue against these braindead people about simple facts. truth of the matter is, jsp has become no better than bitchute. the people who make up the majority here legit believe in the most braindead fucking stupid shit and brigade anyone with an iq higher than grade 8 endlessly. im kinda tired of making fun of these people tbh, their mindsets are gaining alot of steam politically these days and it wont be long before the united states, and the entire world with it becomes legit fucking china or russia because of these stupid fucks
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