Quote (thundercock @ 19 May 2020 12:45)
I just don't understand this mentality and it seems like you've drank the Bernie Kool-Aid. For you to come to some of these conclusions indicates that you haven't done some very basic research which is why Thor called you lazy. The way you talk about Biden indicates that you're informed by 30 second YouTube clips as opposed to actual journalists. What is your response to the 60+ women who worked with Biden and were interviewed? What is your response to being no pattern of sexual assault in his entire career? What is your response to the numerous holes in Reade's story? If you have good reason to believe her, that's fine and I can respect it. However, it seems suspiciously lazy.
What is your response to AOC being on Biden's climate change policy? What is your response his policy plans that he's outlined on his website? You see, Biden is doing A LOT to earn the progressive vote. I just get the feeling that it's all falling on deaf ears. It's okay though, he doesn't need your vote and you can get that awesome feeling that comes with throwing your vote away because you don't live in a swing state. I actually think it's a mistake to bring on moronic demagogues like AOC into his campaign but that's up to him.
A progressive wouldn't say things like "oh, I'll make a lot of $ under a GOP administration" and then say "oh well the poor will get screwed anyway."
Why does everything have to do with Sanders? I voted for Yang in the primary. Is it lazy to consider all the above that I mentioned about the Democratic party over the past 8 years? Or is it lazier to hand the party a vote time and time again simply because Republicans suck?
Like I mentioned above, I spent hours researching my local candidates for county treasurer, judges, clerk etc before submitting an absentee ballot. I do not consider myself a lazy voter. But if you do simply because I do not share your view of a candidate or a party, so be it. I realize Presidential politics are different than local ones.
I've followed the Tara Reade accusation timeline. I don't think her giving more details about the event this year compared to what she did with AP in 2019 is her "changing her story." Rather, I think she disclosed more information at this time, which is pretty common for messy situations like sexual assault.
I don't think Biden needs a pattern of sexual assault in his career to have sexually assaulted Reade. It certainly decreases the chances. The recent pieces coming out of media sites have felt like hit pieces on Reade, desperate for anything to tarnish her credibility, which is ironic coming a liberal culture of "believe all women" that was just present recently with Kavanaugh. A lot of this seems political to me.
To be clear, I am acknowledging the uncertainty of the accusation by Reade and the entire situation in general. I'm inclined to believe her based on her initial account made last year and the corroboration by her family member later with Larry King Live, but I do realize we can never know for sure what happened. I simply don't like Biden's handling and dismissal of the scandal as "don't vote for me" rather than engaging in a dialogue about it. Perhaps he is tired of answering questions about it, which is understandable.
As far as Biden's policies and who he is collaborating with, I think it's fine. You asked about AOC. That collaboration doesn't mean much to me, but this is politics and it's clearly an attempt to reach out to the further left wing of the base, which I think Biden is doing a better job of than Clinton did. In that sense, I appreciate he is trying and I do like that he brings people to the table. When I read Biden's campaign page about his policies, they actually look better to me than Sanders' proposals, for instance. He's not an "ideas" candidate, but his proposals do look nice on paper.
As for your last comment, maybe I'm not a progressive. I actually consider myself a ruthless pragmatist, which is why I actually support a lot of liberal ideas. I'm about the bottom line and a more efficient allocation of resources and of governance. My biggest draw to Biden is simply a SCOTUS vote. That's the reason I voted for Clinton.
My comment about "fine, I'll take more money" was a dramatic one in response to your accusations of laziness and my generation. I'm just kinda fed up with the country, and like I specifically mentioned, it's not a healthy justification, but I won't refuse more money if Trump wants to give another tax break. I won't advocate for it, and in fact will advocate against it, but I won't be sending the extra dough back to the IRS, either.