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Dec 28 2021 06:47am
Quote (TiStuff @ Dec 28 2021 04:00am)
abiogenesis was assertion fallacy and has been crushed into oblivion. certain members (antitheists) of the scientific community have been shown for frauds yet again

Lets Talk Science. More Specificaly "peer Review"
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=85705074&f=90

its such an obsession for antitheists. A baffeling creature consumed with what they dont even believe in? Antitheists are like a giant neon sign pointing at scripture, in part it was the antitheist that lead me to Christ.


God of the Gaps up in here.

I don't know therefore god.

Belief in god is based on faith not reason. Just a different personal authority.

If there is a creator god he has a sense of humor, creating everything, then creating humans who seem who hate most of creation enough to invent fables about other worlds that their true being belongs to, not the being they were actually created as. A lot of bad faith there.

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Dec 28 2021 06:56am
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God of the Gaps up in here.

I don't know therefore god.

Belief in god is based on faith not reason. Just a different personal authority.


i contend there is no "God of the gaps"

"based on faith not reason" .........then lets hear your "reasoned" argument

let me give you a starting point. I am what is called fundamental for short some say fundie, sola scriptura, a scripture christian. the most dreaded kind of christian. lets hear your reasoned argument, contend with that scripture.
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Dec 28 2021 08:50am
Quote (EndlessSky @ Dec 28 2021 04:56am)
If you modify the intensity of any of the four subatomic forces in terms of strength and behavior by any amount, then things like life, liquid water, and stars running on fusion become impossible. You would just have a lone universe heading on towards heat death.

Given the great varied strength in magnitude of these forces suggests that there was a specific selection of these values.


Scientists have played around with computer models on that fusion bit and you may find it worth reading up on.

That aside we do have what is largely a lone universe heading towards heat death. A sprinkle of life on one planet that will last an insignificant amount of time is hardly indicative of a universe designed with life in mind. If the values of these forces were selected then they were more likely to be selected with black holes in mind as there are more of them than there are life forms on earth, they kick ass and destroy anything they encounter and they will last for a very long period of time prior to the heat death of the universe. If this was a universe designed for life id expect there to be much more of it and for it to last a lot longer.

Lastly we dont know why these values are what they are and goddidit is not an adequate substitute for science. We may find naturalist explanations as we have done so historically for things we do not understand and formerly abscribed to god.

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Dec 28 2021 08:59am
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i contend there is no "God of the gaps"

"based on faith not reason" .........then lets hear your "reasoned" argument

let me give you a starting point. I am what is called fundamental for short some say fundie, sola scriptura, a scripture christian. the most dreaded kind of christian. lets hear your reasoned argument, contend with that scripture.


Nice a fundamentalist christian. You might as well have opened with that when you first arrived and spared everyone the trouble of engaging with you.
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Dec 28 2021 09:59am
Quote (TiStuff @ Dec 28 2021 06:56am)
i contend there is no "God of the gaps"

"based on faith not reason" .........then lets hear your "reasoned" argument

let me give you a starting point. I am what is called fundamental for short some say fundie, sola scriptura, a scripture christian. the most dreaded kind of christian. lets hear your reasoned argument, contend with that scripture.


You can contend all you want doesnt make it anything but an assertion.
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Dec 28 2021 10:04am
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Nice a fundamentalist christian. You might as well have opened with that when you first arrived and spared everyone the trouble of engaging with you.


Turn the other cheek.
Love thy neighbor.
Do unto others as you would have done to you.

The impudence!
The audacity!
The unmitigated gall!
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Dec 28 2021 10:07am
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Turn the other cheek.
Love thy neighbor.
Do unto others as you would have done to you.

The impudence!
The audacity!
The unmitigated gall!


You forgot reject all evidence and never update your beliefs.
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Turn the other cheek.
Love thy neighbor.
Do unto others as you would have done to you.

The impudence!
The audacity!
The unmitigated gall!


allahu akbar
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Quote (duffman316 @ Dec 28 2021 10:15am)
allahu akbar


I drawed you a picture of Mohammad.
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Dec 28 2021 11:12am
Rather you believe in God or the big bang theory, it all requires faith.
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