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Jul 28 2021 11:15am
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So, this is the thread everyone will read and post in now during the morning when they drink the marvelous soy latte


lefties run their frauds. when they get exposed they move on and find a different fraud. sometimes they try the same fraud all over again. The fraud has already been tried on jsp
Trumpers Tearing Down Dc.
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=84483633&f=119

now that the wrap up smear people in DC.........

Nancy Pelosi explains the wrap-up smear tactic to the press
https://www.bitchute.com/video/mpYc8mjXO0B1/

........are going to "officially" run the jan 6th fraud the frauds here at JSP are embolden to also re-run the jan 6th fraud narrative. No matter how trashy they will look doing it. Once its done just wait till the next fraud. Perhaps it will be a third impeachment. :)



Quote (fender @ Jul 28 2021 08:44am)
a publisher deciding to withdraw a couple of books containing blatantly racist stereotypes: "the world is going to end over this, let's talk about it for weeks!"

a republican mob, encouraged by a sitting president, violently and illegally storming the capitol, trying to overturn a democratic election and abduct / kill elected officials: "hardly anyone died, this is not a big deal - just move on."





we're having a bit of a selective memory there, huh? that ship sailed when republicans simply refused to have such an investigation, lol. trying to spin this into "something something nancy fucking pelosi" is so desperate, lol. also, which republican would you have chosen? one of those that agree the election needed to be overturned? those that openly sympathised with the insurrectionists and terrorists? you're such a hack...


your having a bit of selective memory........

jan 6th in a nutshell

screaming in the streets Burning Looting and Murdering and jan 6th rolls around and they tout themselvs some kind of paragons of virtue and just so so so so appalled at the violence .............the hypocrisy of the leftie frauds on full display.

Urgent Notice: Why Donald Trump Needs To Play This Video @ His Impeachment 2.0 Hearing
https://www.bitchute.com/video/JJ4jifiMy2ki/

screenshot @13:00

"insurgence_usa" ....................instagram account

John Earle Sullivan (born (1994-07-18)July 18, 1994), also known as Jayden X BLM activist

january 6th meet us there @11am sharp

front line, tactical gear, bullet proof vest, first aid kits and water. no firearms unless licensed to carry in D.C.

Black lives matter 16th n k street washington D.C.

blm/antifa breached the building before the trumpers were even done with their speeches.

the dumb bastards even filmed themselves
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Jul 28 2021 11:23am
Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 28 2021 12:13pm)
ding ding ding.

BLM people are "mostly peaceful" because a cop shoots an unarmed man, they break a few windows, and loot stores that lose no money as their stuff is insured. (not counting far more violent riots like MN-St Paul where large business districts were damaged)

Qanon idiots are "mostly peaceful" because of "just wait until the facts come out" promises from anon twitters saying HRC and Obama are being interrogated via waterboarding in Guantanamo for all of the deep state crimes.


This is something that I think needs to spark a wider conversation.

When the method is violent, i.e. burning and looting, it's roundly condemned by the system. But... that kind of damage to economic interests of communities has been happening for the entirety of our country's history and isn't condemned because there are no bricks through windows. John Oliver highlighted a story this last week where a black family's property was condemned by the city and taken under eminent domaine. It's now worth tens of millions of dollars and they've never had any serious restitution, and the city still won't even apologize. That's effectively the same thing as burning down their business, and was massively more widespread than any kind of property damage due to race riots, but it is barely known about much less condemned and apologized for.

So, when you learn about that kind of history, it's really hard to take economic damage seriously. Until we seriously reckon with the economic damage caused to these families and communities... there's really no reason to get bent out of shape about more economic damage effectively done in retribution.

Anyway, it's a hard issue that our society needs to grapple with, and is currently barely even willing to acknowledge.
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Jul 28 2021 11:30am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jul 28 2021 12:55pm)
So what should happen to the people who broke down doors?
Or the ones who assault police officers?
Or the ones who accessed the offices of senators and other congressional staffers?

IMO the punishments need to range from zero, for the people who never even went onto capital grounds, to a few months for the people who trespassed, to 10+ years for the people who illegally accessed office space and other areas containing sensitive materials, to straight up treason for the people who actively broke down doors and assaulted officers.


The same thing that similar crimes get punished for?

You want to know what makes this painfully obvious partisan? Look at two very similar scenarios. Thousands of people riot, some of them hurting cops, some of them tear down federal buildings, this happens at a BLM protest. How many of them are/have been slapped with 10+ year sentences and drummed up nonsense like treason or insurrection? And then you have this capital riot. Why is assaulting a cop and damaging federal buildings in one case warrant typical and expected charges while the other it's some nonsensical drummed up bullshit?
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Jul 28 2021 11:34am
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This is something that I think needs to spark a wider conversation.

When the method is violent, i.e. burning and looting, it's roundly condemned by the system. But... that kind of damage to economic interests of communities has been happening for the entirety of our country's history and isn't condemned because there are no bricks through windows. John Oliver highlighted a story this last week where a black family's property was condemned by the city and taken under eminent domaine. It's now worth tens of millions of dollars and they've never had any serious restitution, and the city still won't even apologize. That's effectively the same thing as burning down their business, and was massively more widespread than any kind of property damage due to race riots, but it is barely known about much less condemned and apologized for.

So, when you learn about that kind of history, it's really hard to take economic damage seriously. Until we seriously reckon with the economic damage caused to these families and communities... there's really no reason to get bent out of shape about more economic damage effectively done in retribution.

Anyway, it's a hard issue that our society needs to grapple with, and is currently barely even willing to acknowledge.


yes but one is the govt doing shady govt things. the other is private citizens.

a family getting rekt by uncle sam should be condemned, as should people looting a small business or burning it down.

economic damage having a rich history, pun intended, doesnt make me take it less seriously. a vast history rarely does make me take things less seriously.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Jul 28 2021 12:30pm)
The same thing that similar crimes get punished for?

You want to know what makes this painfully obvious partisan? Look at two very similar scenarios. Thousands of people riot, some of them hurting cops, some of them tear down federal buildings, this happens at a BLM protest. How many of them are/have been slapped with 10+ year sentences and drummed up nonsense like treason or insurrection? And then you have this capital riot. Why is assaulting a cop and damaging federal buildings in one case warrant typical and expected charges while the other it's some nonsensical drummed up bullshit?


a police precinct that's been abandoned and the federal building during the electoral vote arent even close to apples to apples.

stop embarrassing yourself.

if my 11 month old daughter throws a roll of TP in the toilet one day and my MTG collection in there the next she's not gonna have me look at these equally just because they're both paper.

again, stop embarrassing yourself. you're being over backwards with whataboutism logic to defend people who literally tried to stop the constitutional process from happening to elect the next potus based on Qanon garbage i assume, but cant be sure at this point, you dont even buy into. while ironically railing against partisan behavior.

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Jul 28 2021 11:35am
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The same thing that similar crimes get punished for?

You want to know what makes this painfully obvious partisan? Look at two very similar scenarios. Thousands of people riot, some of them hurting cops, some of them tear down federal buildings, this happens at a BLM protest. How many of them are/have been slapped with 10+ year sentences and drummed up nonsense like treason or insurrection? And then you have this capital riot. Why is assaulting a cop and damaging federal buildings in one case warrant typical and expected charges while the other it's some nonsensical drummed up bullshit?


Who has been slapped with 10+ year sentences for the capital riot? I've only seen one that was I think 18 months?

Want to know what actually separates the two? It's pretty easy to figure out if you think about it for two seconds. One is an actual protest about real problems, the other is political intimidation because the election didn't go the way they wanted. That's a pretty fucking massive difference to anybody who actually values democracy.
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Jul 28 2021 11:36am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jul 28 2021 09:55am)
So what should happen to the people who broke down doors?
Or the ones who assault police officers?
Or the ones who accessed the offices of senators and other congressional staffers?

IMO the punishments need to range from zero, for the people who never even went onto capital grounds, to a few months for the people who trespassed, to 10+ years for the people who illegally accessed office space and other areas containing sensitive materials, to straight up treason for the people who actively broke down doors and assaulted officers.


wrap up smear bull chit people. didne he already "applicable crimes but I laugh at the partisan pearl clutching" and you are here doing just that. but not a peep out of you for 4 years of Burning Looting and Murdering.........

"areas containing sensitive materials" hahaha spooks got the snockereds lap top REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

" to straight up treason for the people who actively broke down doors and assaulted officers."
hahaha been proven antifa/blm was there even before the trumper where done with their speeches and ev1 knows they break things and assault cops.

are we going to repeat this thread all over again? ...............sure looks like we are.
Trumpers Tearing Down Dc.
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=84483633&f=119

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jul 28 2021 10:03am)
Honestly, if there was actual evidence that the election was stolen and there is a mass conspiracy to overturn the government against the will of the people, I wouldn't condemn what happened at the capitol.

The biggest issue here is that they were rioting and attempting to disrupt the election because of a total fabrication that the president presented and pushed. That's the real danger to Democracy. That our president was the inciting incident because he lost.


this is why i call you lefties frauds. i didnt want to but you frauds force the issue. election fraud is obvious. if it was legit they would of stayed open and counted in the poll watchers face.
Who gave the order for vote counting to stop on Nov 3, 2020? 11.03.21
https://www.bitchute.com/video/jo70PgHrUjUY/



Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 28 2021 10:13am)
ding ding ding.

BLM people are "mostly peaceful" because a cop shoots an unarmed man, they break a few windows, and loot stores that lose no money as their stuff is insured. (not counting far more violent riots like MN-St Paul where large business districts were damaged)

Qanon idiots are "mostly peaceful" because of "just wait until the facts come out" promises from anon twitters saying HRC and Obama are being interrogated via waterboarding in Guantanamo for all of the deep state crimes.


you mean "Burning Looting AND AND AND AND MURDERING"
and thanks for the Q update................woulndt know whayt to do with out lefties runnin up and giving ev1 Q updates

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Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 28 2021 12:34pm)
yes but one is the govt doing shady govt things. the other is private citizens.

a family getting rekt by uncle sam should be condemned, as should people looting a small business or burning it down.

economic damage having a rich history, pun intended, doesnt make me take it less seriously. a vast history rarely does make me take things less seriously.


Both should be condemned, but as a society we are only willing to acknowledge one of them, and plenty of people would acknowledge that burning a business is bad and should be fixed, but will never acknowledge we should fix the other.
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Jul 28 2021 11:40am
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Both should be condemned, but as a society we are only willing to acknowledge one of them, and plenty of people would acknowledge that burning a business is bad and should be fixed, but will never acknowledge we should fix the other.


you honestly dont think a majority of people condemn the govt taking land thats worth millions from a family? that seems silly.
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Jul 28 2021 11:41am
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Who has been slapped with 10+ year sentences for the capital riot? I've only seen one that was I think 18 months?

Want to know what actually separates the two? It's pretty easy to figure out if you think about it for two seconds. One is an actual protest about real problems, the other is political intimidation because the election didn't go the way they wanted. That's a pretty fucking massive difference to anybody who actually values democracy.


You just said some should get 10 year sentences. The fact that the media and democrats keep using nonsensical strong verbs like insurrection is happening for a reason. They want to throw the book at those people and paint a story much worse than reality for obvious partisan reasons.

Ideological causation is largely irrelevant. It doesn't matter if you punch a cop in the mouth because you think the system is racist vs he's stopping you from going through a door. Both should be getting similar sentences.
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Jul 28 2021 11:43am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jul 28 2021 10:37am)
Both should be condemned, but as a society we are only willing to acknowledge one of them, and plenty of people would acknowledge that burning a business is bad and should be fixed, but will never acknowledge we should fix the other.


ya you only acknowledge one of them totally azzz blind to the other
Who gave the order for vote counting to stop on Nov 3, 2020? 11.03.21
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