which propaganda outlets are you referring to?
and how common do you think it is?




When OTV is talking about the mainstream right and you choose to bring up Islamic terrorists and fringe neo-nazis as being the mainstream right to try to smear right wing/conservative americans your attacks are illegitimate and are talking about radically different groups of people.

your feelings are completely irrelevant here. fact is that right wing anti-semitism is significantly more widespread than left wing anti-semitism:
from people who 'only' think that way privately and anonymously (maybe read the popular comments of your favourite youtubers like crowder, molyneux, sargon, peterson...), shout slogans (have you ever seen a left wing group gather and shout anti-semitic slogans?), to people who act upon it and attack jews and jewish institutions because of their religion - all of those are almost exclusively right wingers.

the whole 'the left is anti-semitic' narrative is based on deliberately misrepresenting ANY criticism of israel as anti-semitism, which is ridiculous. genuine anti-semitism is extremely rare on the left and strongly condemned.

weaponising this might be an effective political strategy seeing how many gullible morons are falling for it, but that doesn't mean it's not transparent to somewhat intelligent people, and obviously incredibly dishonest and hypocritical...

Yes, all the time. Are you totally unaware of the black/arab/hispanic anti-semitism that's run amok in the US. Do you not know who Louis Farrakhan is?
https://www.dailywire.com/news/19442/watch-democratic-socialists-chant-river-sea-frank-camp
There's the "Democratic Socialists of America and Young Democratic Socialists" chanting the hamas line about wiping jews out of israel



No, it actually isn't. And that's what ADL statistics themselves say.
Let me break it down for you

https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files/documents/ADL_MS_Survey_Pres_1_25_17.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_the_United_States

Here's how the demographics break down for anti-semitic attitudes in America:



And in case you're unaware, the general party breakdown of left/right for the demographics is about 37:58 for white americans, 88:8 for black, 66:28 for hispanic. Subject to change each election of course, those were 2016 numbers.

Most anti-semites in America today are black and brown. Most anti-semites in America today are left-wing, not right-wing. That's just what the statistics show. Indeed, anti-semitism is far, far more prevalent in the mainstream left-wing opinion then the right-wing. We're talking about a radical fringe of the right wing that has no representation, versus large swaths of demographics that control substantial state and local government positions on the left. Left-wing anti-semitism is so prevalent in America right now that the scandals are coming from elected officials who keep spouting farrakhan talking points. Ilhan Omar is hardly the first or only, heck, the democrats just elected a state senator a few days ago who is the son of a terrorist network's spokesman and was literally banned from entering the US after 9/11. Right-wing anti-semitism on the other hand is such a small radical fringe that virtually all the scandals and terrorism comes from private citizens who don't have any political power or connections.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Mar 7 2019 03:22am

I posted questions and facts.

posting an inane assertion about my feelings is irrelevant



So we've moved from islamic terrorists to anonymous youtube comments you've seen. Great case.

See goomshills post for examples and statistics. Although i am personally more skeptical of how the numbers for 'antisemitic attitudes' are sometimes gauged and used.



You are talking about islamic terrorists and extreme fringe neo-nazis again.

This has nothing to do with the mainstream right, and is only indicative of the flaws and inadequacies of the left-right spectrum.



I would certainly agree that some of it is that and I am not a fan of liberally throwing the word around to demonize criticism and policies.
Its one of the reasons I have some problems with Shapiro.

Its mostly nonsense, but I think its notable in that the ADL has an extreme left-wing bias and their own pollsters try very hard to make the emphasis on "white supremacy"- yet their own data contradicts that narrative.
I'm more inclined to believe data that contradicts a bias of the experimenter rather than confirms it.

In terms of their methodology, its a totally arbitrary and unscientific poll where they assign a score to list of anti-semitic tropes and then see if respondents earn enough points to be labeled anti-semitic. IE they'll ask questions like "Do you believe Jews have too much power in the US today" or "Do you believe Jews are more loyal to Israel than America" or "Do you believe Jews don’t care what happens to anyone but their own kind"
In fairness to the ADL though, anti-semitism is such a nebulous and multiformed concept that can't be defined and tested by any scientific method, so their methodology is probably the best available.

massive logic AND statistics fail, based on ridiculous and entirely baseless assumptions.
you're drawing conclusions about a quality that isn't controlled for at all (political leaning), based on a 'logic' that directly contradicts your own premise (anti-semitism being connected with a certain political leaning).
you also conveniently ignored some factors explicitly mentioned in the adl study (like education) and its definition of what constitutes an 'anti-semitic' attitude, based on their questions.

sorry, but that was a massive own goal and didn't prove ANY of the claims you subsequently made. using the same 'methodology' you'd probably come to the conclusion that vegans are overwhelmingly republicans. seriously, people who apparently never had a statistics course shouldn't make such posts, haha...

again, criticising israel is NOT anti-semitic - and that's the only way you can even HOPE to make the whole thing a 'left-wing' issue.
the actual jew hating and attacking is almost exclusively perpetrated by the right. i linked the incidents earlier, and while youtube comments are of course not a conclusive study, they are still a great indicator of which political side ACTUALLY holds anti-semitic ideas...

This post was edited by fender on Mar 7 2019 03:58am

criticism of israel is one thing, spreading hamas propaganda and downplaying muslim aggression another

Your ignorance of American politics is not my problem. If you need proof that black americans in that sample are almost entirely left-wing, you're either profoundly ignorant or grasping at straws, which is the same thing.
Anti-semitism in america is disproportionately clustered among minority populations, the same populations that make up the backbone of the democratic party.
That anti-semitism is prolific among southern black christians, among black nationalists and nation of islam, among first and second generation hispanic immigrant communities and especially among muslim enclaves.
And if you don't understand that these hotspots of anti-semitism are uniformly blue, you don't know anything about America.

look up which ethnicity accounts for the overwhelming percentage of vegans. then look up which party they vote for. your mind will (hopefully) be blown (away upon realising how ridiculous your assumptions and statistic fails are). it's literally the same idiotic 'logic', just the result won't fit.

and again, right wingers are right wingers no matter the skin colour, religion, or name...

Its like teaching a special needs class with this one.^