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Aug 5 2021 09:01am
CNN hahahahahaha they forgot to write the fake into the news

LOL CNN Inadvertently Admits Vaccines Are Useless
https://www.bitchute.com/video/WV3wdUGhAwJN/
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Quote (SunnyvaleTrailerPark @ Aug 5 2021 07:57am)
Great. Feel like i'm reading Saucisson content. Both as creative.



Ah yes because your flesh light and MF references have so much insight. Stfu
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Ah yes because your flesh light and MF references have so much insight. Stfu


Insight while talking bout the mass? Ain't a requirement.
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I think the amount of symptomatic cases with vaccination due to this variant, has thrown everyone a curve ball.
I think better honest communication would help.
Have they been doing this well to anyone's view?
I don't think they have, all I hear is "get the vaxx"


Even the symptomatic breakthrough infections are mild in the overwhelming majority of cases. The vaccines are doing what they're supposed to do, prevent hospitalization and death.
What they're not doing to the degree some public health experts were hoping for is curb the level of community transmission.



At the end of the day, there currently is a huge disagreement about strategy and end goal in the fight against covid which is lingering in the background. One camp, to which the CDC and most "covid hawks" belong, essentially argues that infection numbers must be kept down as an end in itself. The other camp says that government-mandated restrictions cannot be justified anymore now that an efficient tool to protect oneself is available in the form of the vaccines and everyone had the chance to get them.

Basically, the CDC's communication over the past week is an attempt to steer this debate in their preferred direction before the wider public even realizes what the debate actually is about.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Aug 5 2021 09:03am
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Quote (theCrossbones @ Aug 5 2021 10:35am)
what freedom..?? you aren't even an American Citizen what freedoms are you losing exactly.
Same as question yesterday what rights are you losing?

So you used Worldmeters as a website for information to prove a point earlier.
so.. that # is political.. inb4 motorcycle wrecks tagged as COVID lol
https://i.imgur.com/16cGJSi.png



Less than half of a third of a percent of our population.

Boo hoo.
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Even the symptomatic breakthrough infections are mild in the overwhelming majority of cases. The vaccines are doing what they're supposed to do, prevent hospitalization and death.
What they're not doing to the degree some public health experts were hoping for is curb the level of community transmission.



At the end of the day, there currently is a huge disagreement about strategy and end goal lingering in the background. One camp, to which the CDC and most "covid hawks" belong, essentially argues that infection numbers must be kept down as an end in itself. The other camp says that government-mandated restrictions cannot be justified anymore now that an efficient tool to protect oneself is available in the form of the vaccines and everyone had the chance to get them.

Basically, the CDC's communication over the past week is an attempt to steer this debate in their preferred direction before the wider public even realizes what the debate actually is about.


LOL CNN Inadvertently Admits Vaccines Are Useless
https://www.bitchute.com/video/WV3wdUGhAwJN/

the original claim of the "vaccines " only reduce symptoms and thats not even what a vaccine is supposed to do. what they are talking about is making a bunch of typhoid marys.

that they call it a "vaccine" is a big pile of BS
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Aug 5 2021 09:13am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 5 2021 08:03am)
Even the symptomatic breakthrough infections are mild in the overwhelming majority of cases. The vaccines are doing what they're supposed to do, prevent hospitalization and death.
What they're not doing to the degree some public health experts were hoping for is curb the level of community transmission.



At the end of the day, there currently is a huge disagreement about strategy and end goal in the fight against covid which is lingering in the background. One camp, to which the CDC and most "covid hawks" belong, essentially argues that infection numbers must be kept down as an end in itself. The other camp says that government-mandated restrictions cannot be justified anymore now that an efficient tool to protect oneself is available in the form of the vaccines and everyone had the chance to get them.

Basically, the CDC's communication over the past week is an attempt to steer this debate in their preferred direction before the wider public even realizes what the debate actually is about.


I think they need to change that direction, and focus on severe infection moving forward.
I think with the fatality rate so low with the vaccinations the infection rate although hard to ignore could be much more tolerable as long as the ER system can handle it. I also think the "vaccine passport" is legit and has been used before in the US without all the FrEEdom crying and the gov't didn't send them to gas chambers.. It was so harmless half the country has forgotten. I think for the COVID denier is time to put up or shut up. You part of letting private business make their own decisions or are you really about state mandates only when it benefits your perspective. I hope they start making people without a vax pay for any treatment, or some sore of REAL punitive reaction. Everyone wants a way out.. The vax is the way to make COVID actually like the "flu"
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Quote (theCrossbones @ 5 Aug 2021 17:13)
I think they need to change that direction, and focus on severe infection moving forward.
I think with the fatality rate so low with the vaccinations the infection rate although hard to ignore could be much more tolerable as long as the ER system can handle it. I also think the "vaccine passport" is legit and has been used before in the US without all the FrEEdom crying and the gov't didn't send them to gas chambers.. It was so harmless half the country has forgotten. I think for the COVID denier is time to put up or shut up. You part of letting private business make their own decisions or are you really about state mandates only when it benefits your perspective. I hope they start making people without a vax pay for any treatment, or some sore of REAL punitive reaction. Everyone wants a way out.. The vax is the way to make COVID actually like the "flu"


Yeah, this is also what some other public health experts have been saying in recent days.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/29/cdc-mask-guidance/

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“I think the central issue is that vaccinated people are probably involved to a substantial extent in the transmission of delta,” Jeffrey Shaman, a Columbia University epidemiologist, wrote in an email after reviewing the CDC slides. “In some sense, vaccination is now about personal protection — protecting oneself against severe disease. Herd immunity is not relevant as we are seeing plenty of evidence of repeat and breakthrough infections.”

The document underscores what scientists and experts have been saying for months: It is time to shift how people think about the pandemic.

Kathleen Neuzil, a vaccine expert at the University of Maryland School of Medicine, said getting more people vaccinated remains the priority, but the public may also have to change its relationship to a virus almost certain to be with humanity for the foreseeable future.
“We really need to shift toward a goal of preventing serious disease and disability and medical consequences, and not worry about every virus detected in somebody’s nose,” Neuzil said. “It’s hard to do, but I think we have to become comfortable with coronavirus not going away.”


I, personally, don't mind vaccine passports as long as they're safe from a data privacy point of view. What I fundamentally disagree with is the government making vaccination status a prerequisite for participating in social life. If a gym or club wants to become a vaccinated-only affair, that's fine. What is not fine is when other facilities and businesses would be willing to open their doors to unvaccinated, but are barred from doing so by their local or state government.

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Yeah, this is also what some other public health experts have been saying in recent days.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/29/cdc-mask-guidance/



I, personally, don't mind vaccine passports as long as they're safe from a data privacy point of view. What I fundamentally disagree with is the government making vaccination status a prerequisite for participation in social life. If a gym or club wants to become a vaccinated-only affair, that's fine. What is not fine is when other facilities and businesses would be willing to open their doors to unvaccinated, but are barred from doing so by their local or state government.


ya? time for put up or shut up
Canadian court case ENDS COVID
https://www.bitchute.com/video/UO84zd55x9KI/
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Aug 5 2021 10:12am
ER starting to get BUSY again lol. The coughing people don't look very happy.
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