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Apr 14 2022 07:14pm
Quote (Santara @ Apr 14 2022 06:57pm)
In one breath, I asked you to quote me on denying the existence of deaths in the Donbas. In another unrelated breath, I went further back in time than Euromaidan, to lay blame properly at Russia's feet for interfering in Ukraine's business through the hyper-corrupt Yanukovych government.


:rofl:

You're a clown

So because Yanukovych was corrupt that means the CIA had to remove him by backing violent neo-nazi radicals that went on to kill thousands of their own nation's people with full US backing.

Got ittttt
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Apr 14 2022 07:14pm
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old ass cruiser that was worth how much? lol'd
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Apr 14 2022 07:16pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Apr 14 2022 08:12pm)
Probably a soldier dropped a cigarette onto some fuel by accident or some shit.

If the US navy can suffer dozens of accidents in peacetime, then something like that could happen to a Russian ship during a fuckin hot war when people are stressed out.


Fuel is kept inside sealed systems aboard ships, genius. And even if it weren't, you don't fucking smoke next to it. But even if you did, you could drop a lit cigarette into marine diesel fuel and the fuel would extinguish the cigarette.

There's a shooting war going on. The most likely cause of the fire was incoming fire.
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Apr 14 2022 07:18pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Apr 14 2022 08:14pm)
:rofl:

You're a clown

So because Yanukovych was corrupt that means the CIA had to remove him by backing violent neo-nazi radicals that went on to kill thousands of their own nation's people with full US backing.

Got ittttt


Russia corrupted Yanukovych*
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Apr 14 2022 07:30pm
Quote (Santara @ Apr 14 2022 07:16pm)
Fuel is kept inside sealed systems aboard ships, genius. And even if it weren't, you don't fucking smoke next to it. But even if you did, you could drop a lit cigarette into marine diesel fuel and the fuel would extinguish the cigarette.

There's a shooting war going on. The most likely cause of the fire was incoming fire.


I'd bet both testicles Ukraine got intelligence from NATO in advance that something happened and then immediately claimed it was their UBER DUPER Neptune, creating a narrative to take advantage of it in truly record time.
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Apr 14 2022 07:31pm
Quote (Santara @ Apr 14 2022 07:18pm)
Russia corrupted Yanukovych*


So he was corrupt and that means Obama had to start a war in their country by backing Nazi scum to give them freedom and democracy?

How does this make sense to you?
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Apr 14 2022 07:34pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Apr 14 2022 08:30pm)
I'd bet both testicles Ukraine got intelligence from NATO in advance that something happened and then immediately claimed it was their UBER DUPER Neptune, creating a narrative to take advantage of it in truly record time.


If you had 2 testicles to spare, you'd be out fighting alongside your countrymen.
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Apr 14 2022 07:42pm
RIP Moskva.

To me, it's kind of baffling why any modern navy would operate a warship over 10000mt displacement. They're white elephants in the vast majority of operational theaters one could find a warship in.

I'm actually of the mind that the American super carriers are bordering on being white elephants just as large gunships have been for decades. Probably not yet due to their overwhelming projection of power, but damn, imagine if one Chinese anti ship missile hit a super carrier in a ticklish spot. There goes a hundred billion of military assets gone in a moment.
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Apr 14 2022 07:48pm
Quote (Nibthebarb @ Apr 14 2022 08:42pm)
RIP Moskva.

To me, it's kind of baffling why any modern navy would operate a warship over 10000mt displacement. They're white elephants in the vast majority of operational theaters one could find a warship in.

I'm actually of the mind that the American super carriers are bordering on being white elephants just as large gunships have been for decades. Probably not yet due to their overwhelming projection of power, but damn, imagine if one Chinese anti ship missile hit a super carrier in a ticklish spot. There goes a hundred billion of military assets gone in a moment.


If they can be supported and defended then they are huge assets. But yeah, only worth it if you are staging a really big operation.

Interestingly enough hospital ships are a major method to project power too. If you sail a hospital ship across the world it sends the message that you are willing to need it.
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Apr 14 2022 07:57pm
Quote (Nibthebarb @ Apr 14 2022 09:42pm)
RIP Moskva.

To me, it's kind of baffling why any modern navy would operate a warship over 10000mt displacement. They're white elephants in the vast majority of operational theaters one could find a warship in.

I'm actually of the mind that the American super carriers are bordering on being white elephants just as large gunships have been for decades. Probably not yet due to their overwhelming projection of power, but damn, imagine if one Chinese anti ship missile hit a super carrier in a ticklish spot. There goes a hundred billion of military assets gone in a moment.


They are good when facing much more inferior adversaries that don't have the airforce/naval means to take them down. But yeah in an all out war w/China for example, last place i'd want to be is a US carrier, literal sitting duck.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Apr 14 2022 07:57pm
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