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Apr 14 2022 06:42pm
Ukraine sunk a god damn Russian warship and the jewel of their Black Sea fleet. What a loss. You can't conscript more of those.
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Apr 14 2022 06:47pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Apr 14 2022 07:35pm)
I don't deny that Ukrainian civilians have died in the operation.

However, I don't blindly join the chorus of sheep in saying that Russia and only Russia is to blame.

Ukraine has been killing their own people for 8 years. People like Sandulugu will say that's fine, they should have killed even more, while people like you just flat out deny it.

Truth is, the killing would have never stopped without an operation to remove the violent radicals from power in Ukraine. It's unfortunate that in order to stop killing, more people have to be killed. But ultimately the responsibility for this is on the people who refused to stop killing people in Donbass and refused peace in the first place, and who prostituted themselves out to foreign powers, sacrificing the health and safety of all 40 million Ukrainians in the process.


Perhaps you can link a single post of mine denying deaths in the Donbas over the last 8 years?

The killing would have never started if Russia had stayed out of Ukraine's business in the first place.
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Apr 14 2022 06:48pm
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Ukraine sunk a god damn Russian warship and the jewel of their Black Sea fleet. What a loss. You can't conscript more of those.


That's what you get when you mount all those giant missile tubes in the largest radar cross section of the ship, imo.
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Apr 14 2022 06:52pm
Quote (Santara @ Apr 14 2022 06:47pm)
Perhaps you can link a single post of mine denying deaths in the Donbas over the last 8 years?

The killing would have never started if Russia had stayed out of Ukraine's business in the first place.


So in one breath you claim that you haven't denied it and then a moment later pre-emptively blame Russia for a conflict that resulted as a direct result of an Obama admin CIA regime change operation.

Interesting.
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Apr 14 2022 06:54pm
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Ukraine sunk a god damn Russian warship and the jewel of their Black Sea fleet. What a loss. You can't conscript more of those.


We've been over this. There was a fire on-board the ship that was in all likelihood, accidental. It is unfortunate that it caused ammo to cook off and sink the ship.

Somebody fucked up, but I'd bet my own left testicle that Ukraine never came close to hitting that ship with a fuckin' Neptune.
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Apr 14 2022 06:57pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Apr 14 2022 07:52pm)
So in one breath you claim that you haven't denied it and then a moment later pre-emptively blame Russia for a conflict that resulted as a direct result of an Obama admin CIA regime change operation.

Interesting.


In one breath, I asked you to quote me on denying the existence of deaths in the Donbas. In another unrelated breath, I went further back in time than Euromaidan, to lay blame properly at Russia's feet for interfering in Ukraine's business through the hyper-corrupt Yanukovych government.
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Apr 14 2022 07:00pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Apr 14 2022 07:54pm)
We've been over this. There was a fire on-board the ship that was in all likelihood, accidental. It is unfortunate that it caused ammo to cook off and sink the ship.

Somebody fucked up, but I'd bet my own left testicle that Ukraine never came close to hitting that ship with a fuckin' Neptune.


There was a fire onboard the ship that was in all likelihood set by exploding ordnance in the form of a Neptune missile. Then the fires expanded, and those big ass missile launchers sitting where they would be most easily struck by incoming fire cooked off.

Saving this quote for future surgery promises.
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Apr 14 2022 07:01pm
guys, it was a fire, don't be silly, how can you think a ship was sunk in a war? a fire and unfortunately it set a lot of ammunition on fire. cause you know, on warships, you can start fires and then use those to set the ammunition on fire. all by mistake.

source: trust me bro
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Apr 14 2022 07:12pm
Quote (Santara @ Apr 14 2022 07:00pm)
There was a fire onboard the ship that was in all likelihood set by exploding ordnance in the form of a Neptune missile. Then the fires expanded, and those big ass missile launchers sitting where they would be most easily struck by incoming fire cooked off.

Saving this quote for future surgery promises.


Probably a soldier dropped a cigarette onto some fuel by accident or some shit.

If the US navy can suffer dozens of accidents in peacetime, then something like that could happen to a Russian ship during a fuckin hot war when people are stressed out.
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Apr 14 2022 07:13pm
Quote (SanduLungu @ Apr 14 2022 07:01pm)
guys, it was a fire, don't be silly, how can you think a ship was sunk in a war? a fire and unfortunately it set a lot of ammunition on fire. cause you know, on warships, you can start fires and then use those to set the ammunition on fire. all by mistake.

source: trust me bro


Somebody dropped a ciggie. No worries, it was an old ass cruiser anyway
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