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So tell me what it was if it wasn't a sacrifice. He took the punishment that we all deserve, the great swap. What is that if it isn't a sacrifice? Oh and I'm so glad that you took back what you said about me being a decent human being. I don't run from my past. I tell you the truth, I'm not a good person. I never have been a good person.
Then again you did admit that he still took our sin and died on the cross for us. I guess that means you believe, welcome to Christianity.
Maybe through your Christian perspective it a sacrifice. To me no. Once you really sacrifice something it doesn't come back.
That is pretty sad. Maybe someday you should try to be a better person.This is just plain silly. By that logic I'd be a Pagan, Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim, Nordic, Confucian, (shall I continue?).Quote
I never said you were God. I said humans take the position of God as ruler over there life. Sitting on the throne doesn't automatically make you King, yet you desire to sit there instead of the rightful King. The law makers/government may control what you do but I mean your personal life. Seeking the next big gain. Perhaps the next career step or the next big paycheck.
That is the treasures and riches that you seek. Maybe that holiday or retirement you've been so longing for. For where your heart is, there your treasure will be also. In doing this, you forget all about God entirely and do not put him into the equation.
Jesus says that if the world hates you, remember that it hated Jesus first. If the world loves you, it would accept you as its own. We do not belong to the world so the world hates us. That is why I could careless about human praise. I also do not need to defend God based on that last sentence. I'll let God answer that one on the day you die.
So what? I do to make decisions in my life. Get a job, get a girlfriend, makes some babies, and live life. If I was waiting on a command by Yahweh I'd be sitting on my bed at momma's house with my thumb up my ass.
Here we are with another grabbing for straws. I'll give you a hint of what I do. I work 40 hours a week making $10.50/ph. Me and my future wife have a little house together that we split the bills. Our passion together is this.
It's called Astrophotography if you never heard of it. Her and I love exploring space and taking pictures (if able). They are crap quality but they are good for what we can afford.I'm sorry we don't need a "holy book" to tell us what we can take Astrophotography pictures of.Quote
If you truly believe that then everything you want to attain is also a selfish gain. We're all just very selfish human beings with selfish desires. If you believe that with me then you just said the same thing about yourself, whether you want to admit it or not.
Obviously you didn't understand what I was saying. I'll let you try again.
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Well I'm going to type it again except in bold: Why would a God need a human to sacrifice in order to feed God? Is God like a baby that humans need to feed them? That's what the other religions do. Psalm 50:12 states that: "If I were hungry I would not tell you, for the world is mine, and all that is in it."
What else does God say? Jeremiah 32:27 "I am the Lord, the God of all mankind. Is anything too hard for me?"
You want to hear another bold claim? Jesus is the son of God. Jesus is in the father and the father is in him. He is the way, the truth and the life. Nobody comes to the father except by him.
Do you really believe Hindu's are killing their babes off for Krishna in today's society? I mean if you just read the Bible it seems like that 
Every time I hear/read someone say something like this. It makes me think more that your religion is actually Polytheistic.Quote
You feel bad for those do you? What are you doing about it? I'm sure that most of us have charities that we support. How do you help those who are born blind?
I'm saying that action should follow on from what you feel about a situation. If it is all feeling and no action then I'd have to question how genuine that feeling is.
What you don't think Atheists don't donate to charities? It is different when you're a God and made it where people are born blind. It is different when you're a God that could fix it but you stand with difference.
I would ask the same of your God if I could see/talk to him.Quote
I stand by what I said. We live by faith and not by sight. In Romans 1:20 it states that: "For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse."
You cannot claim ignorance and enter the Kingdom of Heaven. If there are those who have never seen or heard about Jesus, then it is all the more reason to go out and tell others about his great love.
The sight is not on a physical sense so to speak but in a spiritual sense. There is a huge difference.
So you don't have evidence or any kind of proof? All you have is a verse from just another holy book making a claim. Keep them stacking.
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Why not? I believe it does, he rose again and that is the big event. We did just have Easter after all.
Because a man got killed and rose from the dead. That is 100% proof Yahweh exisits.
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Like what? You see an event unfolding in front of you. In this day and age you'd expect to get video footage but that won't always be the case. Somebody comes running up to you and tells you a story. The only thing you have is their word.
If you were to go out and investigate you'd ask other people who were there and they'd tell you the same story but in their perspective. At what point do you credit or discredit their stories? The only thing you have is their word.
It would depend on the story itself and if it had a location of where it happened etc. I would ask a lot of questions obviously.
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The Bible has eyewitness testimonies about the things that we have clearly seen and heard about. The book of Luke is all about that. Luke, a doctor, has carefully investigated from eyewitness accounts the events of Jesus.
Is it true that the Quran was written about 600 years after the events of Jesus? What new evidence unfolds 600 years after an event? Imagine in about 500 years from now some kind of new evidence unfolds about the Titanic.
Or back then you could have asked the eyewitnesses about what happened.
I'm more inclined to believe what Luke has written down.
So did the other religions. The Quran said Mohammed was the last prophet. They had eye witness testimonies about him also. The Muslims believe it to be as true as you with Jesus. The Buddhist has a book called The Tipitaka that has eye witness testimonies about Buddha.
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You see, you say DEMAND their love yet you didn't like the fact that God put the tree of knowledge in the Garden. If God did not put the tree of knowledge in the Garden, how is that not demanding their love?
They are given no choice.
Explain how it is ridiculous that God chose a nation as his holy people? He chose his nation through one person, Abraham.
Does not God love? For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son so that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
There is no greater love than this, to lay down one's life for another. That is what Jesus did, demonstrating the ultimate act of love by sacrificing his life for us.
Putting the tree up was the worse thing Yahweh could ever do to his creation. You pretty much just added to my point.
Easy. If you want the entire world to know about you. You talk to the entire world. If you want to be like just another God that seems like he was made up by a certain group. You only talk that group. Simple no?I'm sorry.Killing off your son after all the horrible shit you have done in the OT is not love.That doesn't make him any better than the people who killed their babies for promises of fruitful vegetation
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