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May 16 2025 12:15am
man you love to make Putin sound like the hero here. For all the cleverness, you may think you have, you sure are bad at looking behind the curtains. If Putin is so concerned to save Ukranian children / civilians, then why is he constantly bombing them instead of focussing on military targets? Also these children you mention were abducted to be indoctrinated in a pro-russian way.

The propaganda is why you are currently defending Russia, acting like its somewhat crazy to think Russia is dangerous and hostile to the very way of living we have. But again, do 5 min of actual research and it becomes apparent that they are not a free society and people. Again, I understand why geopolitically, it all led to war. I also understand that the West provoced Russia by moving into their sphere of influence. But if I have to take sides here, I prefer politics that expand freedom and democracy around the globe over the claims of a murderous dictator. And one that will try to attack Nato nations in Europe a few years down the road

With regards to your comment about the ICC, first of all thats not the only consequence. Second, the US doesn't recognize the ICC so DUH on there not being consequences from that body for US leaders. But I rather talked about the normal political process - pretty sure one major contributing factor for Obama winning in 2008 was the whole Iraq war debacle. Do you think Putin may be voted out of office because of his decision to wage war against Ukraine? Take all the time you need with that one.


I never called Putin the hero of the war and your strawman shows you feel you're not in a strong position in this debate.

Geo-politics means geo-politics and once again, claiming your side is better, has higher standards or is morally superior means nothing and doesn't get you anywhere. You only make the situation worse because you're literally taking a dump on the other side and a country that takes itself serious will respond to that if they can. This time you've picked a fight with a giant country that can fight back not a third world nation that you can bomb into submission like you love to do.

Politics in Russia or who they vote for or what political system they have is none of your business, the EU got nothing to say about it and should focus on their own citizens. I really didn't have to think long about that one, took me 2 seconds ;)

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May 16 2025 12:37am
Western mainstream:

Liberal pro-Western forces in Ukraine united to defend their country against Putin’s fascist regime. The far right played next no role because they only get 2% in elections; their units are completely “de-politicised” and integrated into Ukrainian armed forces.

Azov Nazis on Telegram:

In the first days of the full-out invasion of Soviet remnants into Ukraine, nationalists and national-socialists were in the vanguard of rebuffing the left-wing Golden Horde bio-garbage.
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May 16 2025 02:44am
Ukrainian military says it lost an F16 today but are vague about what happened, as usual
None ever operate anywhere close to the front lines. They claim it was engaged in anti-air defense missions, which can only mean shooting down drones, and claim an "unusual situation arose", the plane crashed and pilot ejected safely. Any of those could be true or completely false, but at least the only reason they'd acknowledge losing an F16 is if it was obvious. That's 3x F16 destroyed this war.

the assumption with losses like this is that Russia launches waves of cheap geran drones lazily floating towards ukrainian targets and baits them to either waste expensive anti-air systems, or launch fighters that can shoot them down with cannons- only to be holding back their own anti-air missiles to take out the fighters. And since UA isn't claiming it as a malfunction or pilot error, they're probably just not acknowledging it being shot down

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May 16 2025 09:20am
/e let me get google translate

This post was edited by Goomshill on May 16 2025 09:37am
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May 16 2025 01:26pm
/e let me get google translate


They got him
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May 16 2025 05:31pm
Said this would be a stumbling block many moons ago. I don’t think they expect to get zap city or north bank of Kherson but getting rest of Donetsk is 100% something they want.

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Axios reports that the Russian delegation in Turkey demanded the full withdrawal of Ukrainian troops from several Ukrainian regions.

Ukraine controls a small part of the Luhansk & substantial parts of the Donetsk, Kherson & Zaporizhzhia, which Russia claims as theirs


https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1923367580368011485?s=46

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May 17 2025 12:17am
A Ukrainian man charged over fires at properties and car linked to Sir Keir Starmer

A 21-year-old man has been charged with three counts of arson with intent to endanger life after fires at two properties and a car linked to Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer.

Roman Lavrynovych, 21, a Ukrainian national from Sydenham, southeast London, is due to appear at Westminster Magistrates' Court on Friday, the Metropolitan Police said.

The force said officers from the Met's Counter Terrorism Command led the investigation because of the connections to the prime minister.

Source: Sky News

https://news.sky.com/story/man-charged-with-arson-over-fires-at-properties-and-car-linked-to-sir-keir-starmer-13367129

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/05/16/ukrainian-man-court-starmer-firebomb/

I was about to make a joke about “the rise of white al-qaeda in Europe”, but al-qaeda are now the good guys again, fighting for freedom and democracy in Syria or something, so go figure.

So tough to make good jokes in 2025.

This post was edited by Malopox on May 17 2025 12:18am
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May 17 2025 03:30am
They got him


Was gonna post a graph if I bothered to translate but I'm too lazy



The fact the durdly peace talks at least produced an agreement for a swap of 1000:1000 PoWs is notable. Thats a huge number and 2000 men going free, and interesting considering how lopsided the exchange of bodies has been for months. It used to be 1:1, but as russia has been advancing its gotten 900+ ukrainian bodies for ~40 russians.
If 2000 PoWs are really swapped it will also give more insight into their conditions while detained
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May 17 2025 10:29am
Was gonna post a graph if I bothered to translate but I'm too lazy

https://i.imgur.com/f8K8Fiq.jpeg

The fact the durdly peace talks at least produced an agreement for a swap of 1000:1000 PoWs is notable. Thats a huge number and 2000 men going free, and interesting considering how lopsided the exchange of bodies has been for months. It used to be 1:1, but as russia has been advancing its gotten 900+ ukrainian bodies for ~40 russians.
If 2000 PoWs are really swapped it will also give more insight into their conditions while detained


Think the Russians capped it to 909 per exchange. What's crazy is how that number has shifted up by such a magnitude from 2024 to 2025. I think we all know the Russian KIA numbers are higher than 34, because as they are pushing they are probably collecting their own dead, so it's probably in the hundreds/month but we have no way of knowing.

If we use the Ukrainian number as a potential proxy of monthly losses it seems to be going up. These are bodies that are collected btw, there's probably just as many that are unrecoverable, whether blown to bits or buried under ruble.

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May 17 2025 11:26am
Olena Zelenska, spouse of President Volodymyr Zelenskyy:



"In our family, the Ukrainian language takes up the most time among all languages.

The new generation of Ukrainians will be more immersed in Ukrainian and know less of what they don’t need to know."

This post was edited by Norlander on May 17 2025 11:30am
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