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Mar 31 2025 04:11am
Whole article takes an hour to read. Zerohedge made a nice summary of key takeaways.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/key-takeaways-nyts-secret-history-us-shocking-level-involvement-ukraine-war


The most galling thing is that western leaders ignore all this. Russia Bad Herp Derp. its ok if we lied Herp Derp, we are doing this for your own good Herp Derp.
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Mar 31 2025 02:53pm
Vladimir Putin signs decree calling up 160,000 Russians for military service
The decree says conscription applies to all citizens aged between 18 and 30 and covers the period from April to July.
The Russian military traditionally holds conscription twice a year, once in spring and again in autumn.
The autumn conscription, which ran from October to December last year, saw 133,000 recruits sent to the army for a year of military service.
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/03/31/vladimir-putin-signs-decree-calling-up-160000-russians-for-military-service
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Mar 31 2025 04:16pm
Vladimir Putin signs decree calling up 160,000 Russians for military service
The decree says conscription applies to all citizens aged between 18 and 30 and covers the period from April to July.
The Russian military traditionally holds conscription twice a year, once in spring and again in autumn.
The autumn conscription, which ran from October to December last year, saw 133,000 recruits sent to the army for a year of military service.
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/03/31/vladimir-putin-signs-decree-calling-up-160000-russians-for-military-service


They started checking in practice whether a newly arrived migrant (who just received Russia citizenship, it's easy to get especially for migrants from former Soviet republics) has registered with the military enlistment office. Previously, migrants completely ignored this, but now they are being tracked down in traditional gathering spots: mosques, MMA clubs, companies providing delivery and taxi services, and so on.
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After completing their service, they will likely be subjected to psychological pressure and lured into signing a contract- after all, a soldier’s salary is often twice as high as that of a delivery guy or taxi driver. But the usefulness of having Islamists in the army is a big question.

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Vladimir Putin signs decree calling up 160,000 Russians for military service
The decree says conscription applies to all citizens aged between 18 and 30 and covers the period from April to July.
The Russian military traditionally holds conscription twice a year, once in spring and again in autumn.
The autumn conscription, which ran from October to December last year, saw 133,000 recruits sent to the army for a year of military service.
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/03/31/vladimir-putin-signs-decree-calling-up-160000-russians-for-military-service


Woah, almost as if they are getting serious, an extra 30k conscripts.
How many volunteers did they have so far this year, last year it was like 400K volunteers.
Russians likely view this war now like teenagers in the U.S.A. viewed the Iraq war in 2006.
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Mar 31 2025 04:56pm
Vladimir Putin signs decree calling up 160,000 Russians for military service
The decree says conscription applies to all citizens aged between 18 and 30 and covers the period from April to July.
The Russian military traditionally holds conscription twice a year, once in spring and again in autumn.
The autumn conscription, which ran from October to December last year, saw 133,000 recruits sent to the army for a year of military service.
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/03/31/vladimir-putin-signs-decree-calling-up-160000-russians-for-military-service


This occurs same time every year btw. This is not an escalation and is no where near what he would need to conscript if he really wanted to mess around. i.e. this is not news worthy, or well, its newsworthy on the basis that its irrelevant in the grand scheme of things (i.e. wont change course of war or tactics). if it had been 1 million there would have been a serious problem.
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This occurs same time every year btw. This is not an escalation and is no where near what he would need to conscript if he really wanted to mess around. i.e. this is not news worthy, or well, its newsworthy on the basis that its irrelevant in the grand scheme of things (i.e. wont change course of war or tactics). if it had been 1 million there would have been a serious problem.


I wouldn’t be so sure. It’s quite possible that these extra 30-40 thousand will eventually sign a contract. Who knows, maybe that’s the plan. Twice a year, 30-40 thousand- that could also be the potential annual losses at the current sluggish pace of the conflict. On the other hand, the number of people willing to sign a contract isn’t likely to increase each year, especially if we believe in those Medvedev-style (what a fantastic source of information, almost on par with local forum-based warmongers) hundreds of thousands. That leaves only two options: mercenaries from other countries and mobilization.

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I wouldn’t be so sure. It’s quite possible that these extra 30-40 thousand will eventually sign a contract. Who knows, maybe that’s the plan. Twice a year, 30-40 thousand- that could also be the potential annual losses at the current sluggish pace of the conflict. On the other hand, the number of people willing to sign a contract isn’t likely to increase each year, especially if we believe in those Medvedev-style (what a fantastic source of information, almost on par with local forum-based warmongers) hundreds of thousands. That leaves only two options: mercenaries from other countries and mobilization.


honestly, there is nothing to read in to here, we discussed this same point last year.

Russia's current conscription efforts are consistent with those in 2023 and 2024, with a minor increase in the number of draftees. On March 31, 2025, President Vladimir Putin signed an order to draft 160,000 men as part of Russia’s biannual conscription drive. In comparison, the fall 2024 draft enlisted 133,000 young men, following a spring draft of 150,000, totaling 283,000 conscripts for that year.

Additionally, in September 2024, Putin decreed an expansion of the Russian army by 180,000 soldiers, aiming for a total of 1.5 million active servicemen. ​

The numbers are too low to fully control Ukraine, i.e. he is not trying to control all of Ukraine, nevermind invade Europe. Its just a matter of logistics and when you get that you can see that the European narrative of Russia seeking to invade Europe is just hot air.

There are no shocking actions, just a slow grinding pressure.

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Apr 1 2025 11:22am
"Ukraine was agreeing to an unconditional ceasefire"



How you can stay in position why lying about something so serious, is astounding.

Upon reviewing recent developments, it's clear that Ukraine has expressed readiness for a 30-day ceasefire, contingent upon Russia's reciprocal agreement and simultaneous implementation. ​This indicates that Ukraine's offer is not entirely unconditional, as it requires mutual adherence from Russia and is timebound. Additionally, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has emphasized that Russia must cease imposing conditions for the truce to proceed. ​Therefore, while Ukraine demonstrates a willingness to halt hostilities, the proposed ceasefire is dependent on Russia's agreement and concurrent actions.

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https://news.err.ee/1609644830/estonia-amends-constitution-to-strip-russian-belarusian-citizens-of-right-to-vote

Orcs stripped of their access to democracy

Nothing of value lost since they prefer tyranny anyway
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Took 3 years for Estonians to realize the threat. Better late than never laid.
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