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Mar 29 2025 03:32am
Yeah, either the mineral deal will get shot down by the courts in Ukraine, or some future Democrat administration will forgive the debt.
Trump is stuck on stupid with this loser mineral deal.
The USA continues to provide hundreds of billions in aid, and in return the USA gets an IOU Claim on some dirt in the ground.


I already said a month or so ago that this mineral deal is just a way for Trump to save face with his base while continuing some degree of US aid to Ukraine, at least for the time being. Buys him time to figure out a plan to solve this conflict, because he very obviously didn't actually have a plan when his second term started.
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Mar 29 2025 03:49am
I already said a month or so ago that this mineral deal is just a way for Trump to save face with his base while continuing some degree of US aid to Ukraine, at least for the time being. Buys him time to figure out a plan to solve this conflict, because he very obviously didn't actually have a plan when his second term started.


So did I, that's why this is so much stupider than I stated.
What kind of a businessman can't say no?
That's the obvious play here, to just wash your hands of it, and walk away.
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Mar 29 2025 06:52am
No, you actually do, you racist bustard.

"Russia is 100% black."

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How do you keep getting away with it? And where the mods are looking?

^kevin


Russia as a country, a system, a regime, is 100% bad.
Individuals in Russia aint necesarily bad, but they cannot say a word in Russia, they dont have freedom, if they dare to speak something then KGB gets them, like they did with Navalny and many others in the past.
You probably know that, because you live in Russia.
You cant go out in the streets and protest against the war with Ukraine, you are kind of a slave yourself.
Your government taxes you to fund a war against Ukraine. Your taxes support murdering and enslaving Ukrainians.
Yet you are snowflake enough to call the mods with fake racism accuses.
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Mar 29 2025 07:13am
1. On Russia as a "100% bad" system
No country or political system is monolithic or universally "good" or "bad." Russia, like any nation, has complex historical, cultural, and political dimensions. Reducing it to a caricature ignores the nuances of its society, achievements in science/arts, and the diversity of opinions among its people. Criticism of specific policies or leaders is valid, but blanket demonization is reductive and counterproductive.

2. On freedom of speech and repression
While Russia has significant restrictions on free speech (especially under laws like "foreign agent" labeling or anti-war censorship), the idea that no one can speak out is exaggerated. Many Russians do criticize the government- through art, social media, journalism, or local activism- though often at personal risk. Figures like Navalny symbolize resistance, but his case reflects targeted repression, not the totality of Russian society. Millions still engage in dissent, albeit cautiously.

3. On protests and "slavery"
Calling Russians "slaves" is dehumanizing. Protests have occurred (e.g., 2021-2022 anti-war rallies), but severe penalties deter mass participation. Most people prioritize survival- avoiding prison or losing jobs- over futile street protests. This isn’t unique to Russia; authoritarian systems worldwide suppress dissent. Blaming ordinary citizens for systemic oppression ignores the power imbalance they face.

4. On taxes funding the war
Taxes in "any" country fund policies citizens may oppose (e.g., U.S. wars in Iraq, Israeli settlements). Russians have little control over budget allocation, and tax evasion risks prosecution. Moral responsibility lies with policymakers, not individuals coerced into compliance. Many Russians privately oppose the war but lack avenues to resist without self-sacrifice.

5. On "fake racism accuses"
If you’re referring to moderation disputes, accusations should be addressed specifically. Generalizing all Russians as "snowflakes" (or was it a personal attack) for reporting abuse mirrors the same intolerance you condemn. Constructive dialogue requires acknowledging bad-faith actors on all sides without stereotyping.

TL;DR
Criticize the Russian government’s actions rigorously, but avoid conflating the regime with its people. Millions of Russians oppose the war, mourn Navalny, and resent Putin’s rule- but systemic change requires more than individual bravery. Dismissing them as "slaves" or "complicit" ignores their agency and the real fear they live under. Solidarity with Ukrainians shouldn’t mean vilifying ordinary Russians.

This post was edited by Norlander on Mar 29 2025 07:18am
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Mar 29 2025 07:23am


Lmfao underrated comment/meme. 10/10
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Mar 29 2025 07:31am
whenever I argue/debate on the israeli topic, i try to be guided by this: https://holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definition-antisemitism

what you have clearly done here is accuse an entire nation of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single person or group. not all germans were bad in ww2 and not all russians are bad today. not all israeli's are bad either.
all you have to do is say "yes, I was generalizing, obvious not all X or Y are bad" and all this (waving my finger up at the last few posts) goes away.

there is nothing wrong with your hatred of a group within Russia, or Russia's governments current actions, or the actions of the army, this can be accepted based on historical grievances (perceived or real).
its all relative. However when you condemn an entire people (see the israeli thread and gaza for examples of users speaking like you just did) thats when your being very very "out there".


I never said that all Russians are bad, you must have misread.
Russia aint democratic, people there cant really change their government, instead the government have much impact on people: they spread the propaganda in media, there are no free media and government silences those who are against the war.
Also the kids there are taught that Russia has no borders, that they can invade whoever Russia wants.
And one days these kids turn into adults and that's how its going.
Of course some people refuse the government propaganda. Most inteligent ones, smartest ones.
Its a system that is hundreds year old already.
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Mar 29 2025 07:37am
It's a system that is millions years old already. There's a documentary video game about it on Steam called "Russians against Reptiles".
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Mar 29 2025 07:43am
I never said that all Russians are bad, you must have misread.

The US aint democratic, people there cant really change their government, instead the government have much impact on people: they spread the propaganda in media, there are no free media and government silences those who are against the war.
And one days these kids turn into adults and that's how its going.
Of course some people refuse the government propaganda. Most inteligent ones, smartest ones.
Its a system that is hundreds year old already.


Substitute “Russia” for “The US” in your statement and it’s jarringly accurate for Americans. Ponder that.
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Mar 29 2025 08:05am
1. On Russia as a "100% bad" system
No country or political system is monolithic or universally "good" or "bad." Russia, like any nation, has complex historical, cultural, and political dimensions. Reducing it to a caricature ignores the nuances of its society, achievements in science/arts, and the diversity of opinions among its people. Criticism of specific policies or leaders is valid, but blanket demonization is reductive and counterproductive.

2. On freedom of speech and repression
While Russia has significant restrictions on free speech (especially under laws like "foreign agent" labeling or anti-war censorship), the idea that no one can speak out is exaggerated. Many Russians do criticize the government- through art, social media, journalism, or local activism- though often at personal risk. Figures like Navalny symbolize resistance, but his case reflects targeted repression, not the totality of Russian society. Millions still engage in dissent, albeit cautiously.

3. On protests and "slavery"
Calling Russians "slaves" is dehumanizing. Protests have occurred (e.g., 2021-2022 anti-war rallies), but severe penalties deter mass participation. Most people prioritize survival- avoiding prison or losing jobs- over futile street protests. This isn’t unique to Russia; authoritarian systems worldwide suppress dissent. Blaming ordinary citizens for systemic oppression ignores the power imbalance they face.

4. On taxes funding the war
Taxes in "any" country fund policies citizens may oppose (e.g., U.S. wars in Iraq, Israeli settlements). Russians have little control over budget allocation, and tax evasion risks prosecution. Moral responsibility lies with policymakers, not individuals coerced into compliance. Many Russians privately oppose the war but lack avenues to resist without self-sacrifice.

5. On "fake racism accuses"
If you’re referring to moderation disputes, accusations should be addressed specifically. Generalizing all Russians as "snowflakes" (or was it a personal attack) for reporting abuse mirrors the same intolerance you condemn. Constructive dialogue requires acknowledging bad-faith actors on all sides without stereotyping.

TL;DR
Criticize the Russian government’s actions rigorously, but avoid conflating the regime with its people. Millions of Russians oppose the war, mourn Navalny, and resent Putin’s rule- but systemic change requires more than individual bravery. Dismissing them as "slaves" or "complicit" ignores their agency and the real fear they live under. Solidarity with Ukrainians shouldn’t mean vilifying ordinary Russians.


Is it some kind of AI generated post?
Historical or culture achievements doesnt matter if a country is bad or good.
Your country could make the best music, best dancers, best movies, and even be the first country to send an astronaut into cosmos, but if your government is murdering people and doing other bad things, then its a bad country.
Snowflake was personal to you, because YOU, Norlander, called the "police" (site admin) here to "arrest" me, doing that without a valid reason, because I'm not racist.
"Most people prioritize survival- avoiding prison or losing jobs" - this is a part I can agree, thats exactly what would a slave do: prioritize survival, avoiding prison. I would probably do the same I think.
As an infant I used to live under Russian occupation, before USSR collapsed around year 1990, so I was a slave as well. Do I dehumanize myself? Of course not :)
Anyway I keep my fingers crossed for "slave revolt" in Russia, and the people overthrown the government oneday :)
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Mar 29 2025 08:09am
Is it some kind of AI generated post?
Historical or culture achievements doesnt matter if a country is bad or good.
Your country could make the best music, best dancers, best movies, and even be the first country to send an astronaut into cosmos, but if your government is murdering people and doing other bad things, then its a bad country.
Snowflake was personal to you, because YOU, Norlander, called the "police" (site admin) here to "arrest" me, doing that without a valid reason, because I'm not racist.
"Most people prioritize survival- avoiding prison or losing jobs" - this is a part I can agree, thats exactly what would a slave do: prioritize survival, avoiding prison. I would probably do the same I think.
As an infant I used to live under Russian occupation, before USSR collapsed around year 1990, so I was a slave as well. Do I dehumanize myself? Of course not :)
Anyway I keep my fingers crossed for "slave revolt" in Russia, and the people overthrown the government oneday :)


Your post proves you are a racist, I will keep it.

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And no, it wasn't a Russian occupation, but USSR which includes Ukraine that had the biggest communist party amongst all the republics. So it's safe to say you were happily occupied by commie Ukros, your former chłops. And we already had a revolution you are speaking about, guess you didn't like it's results at the end, the beginning as usual was promising.

This post was edited by Norlander on Mar 29 2025 08:15am
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