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Damn satan, chill!
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Then your life is absolutely meaningless. You'll be here today but gone tomorrow. In time your life will be summed up with 2 dates: your DOB and your DOD. Passerbys will read your tombstone and move on, never knowing what you did in life.

Within 2 weeks of your passing, people will have moved on and gone on with their lives.
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Then your life is absolutely meaningless. You'll be here today but gone tomorrow. In time your life will be summed up with 2 dates: your DOB and your DOD. Passerbys will read your tombstone and move on, never knowing what you did in life.

Within 2 weeks of your passing, people will have moved on and gone on with their lives.


Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
“So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors:




https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/10/us/lahaina-banyan-tree.html


37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark,

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
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Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
“So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors:


https://i.ibb.co/txQkfBy/Screen-Shot-2024-02-14-at-3-34-03-PM.png

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/10/us/lahaina-banyan-tree.html


37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark,

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.


So shall it be for people like BaHgerAUT who do not believe in the afterlife. Thanks for proving my point.
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Quote (CPK001 @ Feb 14 2024 12:24pm)
Then your life is absolutely meaningless. You'll be here today but gone tomorrow. In time your life will be summed up with 2 dates: your DOB and your DOD. Passerbys will read your tombstone and move on, never knowing what you did in life.

Within 2 weeks of your passing, people will have moved on and gone on with their lives.


Whats the problem with that? Why does my life become meaningless if nothing follows. Isnt it the opposite? Isnt every day a special day, if I know this is the only life I have? Thats how I see it at least. I dont see why eternal existence adds to my life. I didnt exist before I was born and it wasnt a problem. It wont be a problem afterwards.

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So shall it be for people like BaHgerAUT who do not believe in the afterlife. Thanks for proving my point.


i merely showed that its playing out real time, its a very specific, i would not generalize it to a justification in believing in the afterlife.

however hoping that there is somewhere better to go is certainly motivating, but in order to realistically perceive there is a better place you have to account for why the rulers would be allowing for all manner of torture currently.

and by that i would suggest theres no real safe assumption in thinking that, however that doesnt mean, belief or no belief, that it isnt applicable.


this is what discernment is about, what testing spirits is about, and why scripture is good for reproof. the dangerous path that most christians have taken is in trusting the historically untrustable. the anti christians are hoping you believe in jesus so you do nothing.

thats a huge mind job that should wake the christian person up so they might realize they are the living remnant energy of god, it is not just some external force they worship let alone by paper! wheres the content update, if no more holy men/women can publish scripture, its been dead for centuries. time to get woke imo.


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Whats the problem with that? Why does my life become meaningless if nothing follows. Isnt it the opposite? Isnt every day a special day, if I know this is the only life I have? Thats how I see it at least. I dont see why eternal existence adds to my life. I didnt exist before I was born and it wasnt a problem. It wont be a problem afterwards.



youre life becomes meaningless because your soul, your agency, your consciousness would cease to exist, so yes thats a huge problem, for that even to be a disconnect in your own expression of this notion would suggest you are extremely compartmentalized.

every day is special until they all lead to your own undoing, and thats the wages of sins cpk was talking about. however those sins are unfair and you still pay the price. im just not blind enough to say that by worshiping a god you dont know the problem is then fixed.

pragmatically the best way to ensure your conscious ness or energy survival is to stay true to the self and the way it was intended to be used, righteous, good, moral, and virtuous. and backing those things w/ mourning, repentance and a willingness to live out its benefit. however the world is designed to suppress these fruits at every level.
this leads you to basic survival, cause and effect. you are more likely to save your soul if you dont invest it into a world that is betraying that nature. its actually very logical, modern Christianity has become blind faith not faith.

by using time tested christian theology i could say that the reason you dont care is because your demonic stronghold benefits in exploiting or using your consciousness for its benefit, which is not to care about yourself.

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So John the Apostle, the youngest of the disciples, comes up with this whole "Revelations" and "Hell" bit. Right? Yet it's not really corroborated by anything Jesus said, or by anything in the old Testament, OR by any of the other apostles, no?

My question would be, what if Revelations is bullshit? What if what you believe your "afterlife" to be is what it'll be? So, you believe (and God agrees) that you're faithful enough, you've repented of your sins, accepted Jesus into your heart, etc. so you go to heaven, right?

What if BaHgerAUT's faith that there is nothing means that's what he gets? Rather than an everlasting soul basking in the glory of God, he simply ceases to exist?

Thoughts?
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So John the Apostle, the youngest of the disciples, comes up with this whole "Revelations" and "Hell" bit. Right? Yet it's not really corroborated by anything Jesus said, or by anything in the old Testament, OR by any of the other apostles, no?

My question would be, what if Revelations is bullshit? What if what you believe your "afterlife" to be is what it'll be? So, you believe (and God agrees) that you're faithful enough, you've repented of your sins, accepted Jesus into your heart, etc. so you go to heaven, right?

What if BaHgerAUT's faith that there is nothing means that's what he gets? Rather than an everlasting soul basking in the glory of God, he simply ceases to exist?

Thoughts?



the entire basis is grounded in a frame work for potentially explaining reality, a persons consciousness, and especially currently, it can do this but much in the way a broken compass can be fixed to guide you in the right direction. Ive stated over and over in my findings that scripture is guided if not wrriten by the messenger or satan, and the big carrot is the god he killed is coming back, however every other big event is mostly true and still builds credibility to the idea that satan is pretending to be jesus or god.

i have to live in reality, the fantasy wants you to perceive that everything is ok, and they rely heavily on numbing you so that you dont feel the suffering, that is also not justifiable if god is omnipotent. so for any1 to disagree w/ what ive been saying in these forums they would have to attest that jesus is not omnipotent and therefore can allow for suffering, and thats fine, but most christian zealots would not suggest that. its extremely arrogant to blame the victim for not worshiping christ well enough, and the bible implies that ridiculously so unfortunately and society tents to justify any error as the result of a mans agency to sin.

i would suggest there isnt enough agency to be found guilty more over. so the issue in apoc is if you dont have that agency, then a rewards approach to explain suffering is rather foolish because its compensation not fair justification.

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the entire basis is grounded in a frame work for potentially explaining reality, a persons consciousness, and especially currently, it can do this but much in the way a broken compass can be fixed to guide you in the right direction. Ive stated over and over in my findings that scripture is guided if not wrriten by the messenger or satan, and the big carrot is the god he killed is coming back, however every other big event is mostly true and still builds credibility to the idea that satan is pretending to be jesus or god.

i have to live in reality, the fantasy wants you to perceive that everything is ok, and they rely heavily on numbing you so that you dont feel the suffering, that is also not justifiable if god is omnipotent. so for any1 to disagree w/ what ive been saying in these forums they would have to attest that jesus is not omnipotent and therefore can allow for suffering, and thats fine, but most christian zealots would not suggest that. its extremely arrogant to blame the victim for not worshiping christ well enough, and the bible implies that ridiculously so unfortunately and society tents to justify any error as the result of a mans agency to sin.

i would suggest there isnt enough agency to be found guilty more over. so the issue in apoc is if you dont have that agency, then a rewards approach to explain suffering is rather foolish because its compensation not fair justification.


Wait, I'm confused. God is described as omnipotent. Where was Jesus, that specific aspect of the trinity, described as such?

"Father, why hast thou forsaken me?!" This is not the cry of the omnipotent aspect of the Trinity, no?

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Wait, I'm confused. God is described as omnipotent. Where was Jesus, that specific aspect of the trinity, described as such?

"Father, why hast thou forsaken me?!" This is not the cry of the omnipotent aspect of the Trinity, no?


if omnipotent means perfectly powerful and just in all ways among other things, then yes this is clearly not a valid explanation modern day where all manner of suffering and torment exists even unto the unborn.

however its easier to just better explain, calibrate or adjust the bible as a compass then to insinuate even more foolish notions like that you evolved from bacterial mud and that everything is chance hypothesis.

based on my theory i can tell you even scientifically that the reason your nails grow too long, and why a dogs paw doesnt need shoes but your feet do, is because earth was a stolen design or creation whereby satan killed god to inherit it, and uses mens hands and minds to further refine it for his vision, and not yours or the soul creators.

i cant do that w/ evolutionary theory, or any other form of Darwinism leading up to string theory. however i can tell you symbolically what those represent even more symbolically in the same way homo erectus has less to do w/ science and more to do w/ secret occult homage . but dont tell the disenfranchised wu wu scientists on their payroll indirectly.

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