Lolbertarian trash against peoples freedom to declare sovereignty & proclaim independence

Lolbertarian trash for Ukrainian warmonger's refusal to accept proclamation of independence, leading to 13,000 plus unnecessary deaths

got it :rofl: :rofl:

there is the testimony before US congress of a guy (Robert Mueller) who led the multi-year investigation into the false claims re: "Trump russian agent" / "Trump colluded with russia"

‘We focused on whether the evidence was sufficient to charge any member of the campaign with taking part in a criminal conspiracy. It was not.’

What if those weren't prostitutes and spent their earned by back-breaking labor roubles to have an opportunity to pee on American president?

This post was edited by Norlander on Apr 14 2022 06:19am

Any views on Paul Manafort, or that infamous call from Trump to Ukraine ?

/while this may be construed as off topic ultimately alot of these things are interconnected / are history or background information to the issues at hand.



yea i read that a while ago but i didnt post it noting it could be misconstrued several ways. ultimately alot of people died in Ukraine before Russia invaded so there is some element of truth to Russian claims. I dont mind if a conversation of the period 2014-todate is had.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 14 2022 06:31am

I am not from usa.

Trump was very friendly with putin in his speeches and said several times that he wanted to "get along" with him, whatever that means. The first usa president to try to do so in many years. Maybe this is where it could have originated from.
And indeed he was suspiciously friendly with putin, wanted to leave nato which would have benefitted russians obviously. I personally dont believe that he was blackmailed, i belive he was simply this dumb.

It is true that russia wanted trump to be president both in 16 and 20. Obviously americas enemies want the guy that they percieve to be weaker as the president, no secret or surprise there. The election wasnt stolen. Not sure if supporting trump by an army of paid internet trolls like chopdicks counts as a collusion tho.

probably a case of dont ask dont tell. also i would not say stronger / weaker, i would say more sympathetic, or less hostile.
ultimately both the US and England appeared to clearly have issues with online media advertising around the election and around brexit respectively. Thats on them to fix (or not as is the case). I expect to see more of that in future elections in more countries (noting both america and england while "bastions" of the democratic process are nevertheless not doing anything to mitigate the risk regardless false claims and internet advertising - and if they are not doing it, everyone else is probably not either).

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 14 2022 06:33am

sure, the corrupt USA establishment had nothing to back up their false "russian agent / colluded with russia" claims to such a degree, that they began to search for ANY totally unrelated to the investigation "wrongdoings" that they could find

by "call from Trump to Ukraine", i believe you refer to the one he made after seeing Joe Biden confess to a crime on video where Biden forced Ukraine, by way of withholding promised money from them, to remove a Ukrainian prosecutor that investigated his son Hunter Biden. Good call to investigate that.

I am referring to the call, donald trump made, and its content, which prompted a whistleblower to make a statement about said call.
I am happy for you to expand on that.
also I am happy for you to elaborate on the Biden story re: withholding promised money in exchange for X.

else I will go look for them over the weekend, i cant remember all the details off hand (remember i dont have a side, i dont mind if all parties are angels or demons).


The point that I am making here is that neither man is perfect, both have done questionable things, both will continue to do questionable things. Provided this is accepted, you simply bear it in mind when you see Biden referring to Putin as committing Genocide or when you see the US currently slapping Inda for Human Rights Abuses. i.e. Biden and his administration has an agenda and will seek to "win" via the means he deems personally palatable but which are questionable. And thats the point, to question the means by which leaders do things and to question the information being provided to you.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 14 2022 06:54am

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections



Russia foments an insurrection in the Donbas and steals Crimea, then acts surprised when an insurrection breaks out, and plays victim. FOH with your trash logic, bootlicker.

nice conspiracy theory nutter

majority Russian area doesn't like that USA stooges staged a USA-backed coup in the country the live in, so they decide to leave

sorry those you bootlick have decided 13,000 PLUS had to die because of this