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Mar 14 2025 02:15pm
Having a hard time following your last posts then. Maybe you were just comparing the liberals response.



Anyways, I don't understand how the average Ukrainian can sustain when the government is preying on their community like this. There was a recent long form publication by DW on the war and dead soldiers. The graveyards were huge. More than one generation just sent to the killing fields unwillingly.

Actually, it's easy if you get into it. You move to Western Ukraine or Europe if you have the money (it's essentially a paid vacation, plus you can jump around in the square and shout "Glory to Urine"), rent out your apartment to draft dodgers at triple the price, and report your Russian-speaking neighbors to the military enlistment office (TCC)/ТЦК) so they can fight the Russians instead of you. If you're less lucky, you can hole up in a grandmother's cellar in the village among jars of pickles and remotely write comments for money, spreading fake news and dehumanizing the enemy. Of course, such people wouldn't want the war to ever end- it's simply not profitable for parasites.
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Mar 14 2025 03:23pm
from my own little peeking the ukrainian guy was a POS that was repeatedly caught being bold, but no evidence of physical violence unto others. not involved in rounding up ppl for the war.

What do you mean there are multiple news outlets reporting past violence of this guy.
"He was the founder and head of the NGO Street Front, and a participant in the Revolution of Dignity and the May 2nd standoff in Odesa against pro-Russian forces. He also led the Right Sector cell in Odesa from 2014 to 2016."
https://english.nv.ua/nation/activist-demyan-hanul-killed-in-odesa-ukrainian-mp-reports-50497902.html
He participated in the EuroMaidan Revolution and the May 2 clashes against pro-Russian forces in Odesa.
https://kyivindependent.com/suspect-in-murder-of-prominent-ukrainian-activist-detained-in-odesa/

Right there he lead the group responsible, and was there for the attack on peaceful May 2 protestors, beating them, chasing them into a building, then killing them by lighting the building of fire while shooting at people who tried to emerge for fresh air.
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Mar 14 2025 03:29pm
What do you mean there are multiple news outlets reporting past violence of this guy.
"He was the founder and head of the NGO Street Front, and a participant in the Revolution of Dignity and the May 2nd standoff in Odesa against pro-Russian forces. He also led the Right Sector cell in Odesa from 2014 to 2016."
https://english.nv.ua/nation/activist-demyan-hanul-killed-in-odesa-ukrainian-mp-reports-50497902.html
He participated in the EuroMaidan Revolution and the May 2 clashes against pro-Russian forces in Odesa.
https://kyivindependent.com/suspect-in-murder-of-prominent-ukrainian-activist-detained-in-odesa/

Right there he lead the group responsible, and was there for the attack on peaceful May 2 protestors, beating them, chasing them into a building, then killing them by lighting the building of fire while shooting at people who tried to emerge for fresh air.


afaik he was never charged with assault or ?
hey, hes a baddy in my books, dont get me wrong. i just want to make sure we know what he is/was if that makes sense.
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Mar 14 2025 03:46pm
afaik he was never charged with assault or ?
hey, hes a baddy in my books, dont get me wrong. i just want to make sure we know what he is/was if that makes sense.


You can watch videos from the event of cops just standing by and watching them, literally a fat guy in front of a cop is firing a handgun at people gasping for fresh air, and the cop doesn't care or do anything.
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You can watch videos from the event of cops just standing by and watching them, literally a fat guy in front of a cop is firing a handgun at people gasping for fresh air, and the cop doesn't care or do anything.


similar to how the cops stood by in the US and watched the school kids getting the shit kicked out of them by AIPAC goons re: the protests against the genocide in Gaza. Yep i had to slot that in.
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Mar 14 2025 03:54pm
You can watch videos from the event of cops just standing by and watching them, literally a fat guy in front of a cop is firing a handgun at people gasping for fresh air, and the cop doesn't care or do anything.


specifically, 4 people were shot to death, 32 died in the fire and 10 jumped to their deaths trying to escape it. He probably shot one or more of the four
he led the group throwing molotovs into the building, then even after the mass killing his group still attacked the survivors from the roof or those who survived the jump

ya know the veneration of saint floyd, michael brown, trayvon martin, etc is pretty small fries when people on UA propaganda channels are eulogizing what I think might be one of the worst human beings alive (formerly). A neo-nazi war criminal, mass murderer, rapist and torturer who terrorized his own countrymen with coercion and blackmail. Its folks like these that I point to when making the distinction of how most of the high ranking third reich nazis tended to be mundane bureaucrats with no particular violent streak, that whole 'mundanity of evil' like in the eichmann trial. Then we've got neo-nazis like this who would tie someone to a tree and anally rape them
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Mar 14 2025 04:11pm
similar to how the cops stood by in the US and watched the school kids getting the shit kicked out of them by AIPAC goons re: the protests against the genocide in Gaza. Yep i had to slot that in.


Yep if it fits U.S. geopolitical interests there is no foul.
We can see this with the recent HTS massacre in Syria as well, Donald Trump isn't launching any tomahawk cruise missiles over that, and the EU is all buddy, buddy with the HTS leader.

specifically, 4 people were shot to death, 32 died in the fire and 10 jumped to their deaths trying to escape it. He probably shot one or more of the four
he led the group throwing molotovs into the building, then even after the mass killing his group still attacked the survivors from the roof or those who survived the jump

ya know the veneration of saint floyd, michael brown, trayvon martin, etc is pretty small fries when people on UA propaganda channels are eulogizing what I think might be one of the worst human beings alive (formerly). A neo-nazi war criminal, mass murderer, rapist and torturer who terrorized his own countrymen with coercion and blackmail. Its folks like these that I point to when making the distinction of how most of the high ranking third reich nazis tended to be mundane bureaucrats with no particular violent streak, that whole 'mundanity of evil' like in the eichmann trial. Then we've got neo-nazis like this who would tie someone to a tree and anally rape them


This is an accurate description of how events are portrayed in the media in general.
Post WW2 the United States even hung journalists for just writing mean things about the Jewish State in Germany.

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Stefanyshyna: Ukraine's membership in the EU by 2030 is a virtually decided matter.

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"Ukraine will be a member of the European Union by 2030. This is already a virtually decided matter," commented Stefanyshyna on the statement by the President of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, that with the current pace of reforms, Ukraine could join the EU by 2030.

The seriousness and realism of the EU's intentions are indicated by the fact that the EU budget for 2026–32/33 is being formed with Ukraine's membership in mind, explained Stefanyshyna.

"The seriousness of the EU's intentions can be assessed by the efforts of Hungary to block their implementation," added Stefanyshyna. "Hungary is now actively trying to block Ukraine's inclusion in the next EU budget."

Ukraine has also set a deadline of 2027 for all future obligations to the EU, without requesting transitional periods, she added. This means that part of the legislation for Ukraine's integration into the EU will be developed in 2025–2026 and adopted in 2027.

"Therefore, this goal [2030] is absolutely realistic. We are already integrated into the EU in many sectors. These include telecommunications services, trade, transport and customs liberalization, and energy markets," said Stefanyshyna.

There are still problematic issues, but the level of integration is already high, added the Deputy Prime Minister. Therefore, a large number of myths and threats have been dispelled. "Of course, the agricultural sector remains a trigger, but a huge range of issues is no longer a trigger," she concluded.

Source: Forbes

https://forbes.ua/news/stefanishina-chlenstvo-ukraini-v-es-u-2030-mu-faktichno-ukhvalene-rishennya-14032025-28031

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Mar 14 2025 04:58pm
Stefanyshyna: Ukraine's membership in the EU by 2030 is a virtually decided matter.

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"Ukraine will be a member of the European Union by 2030. This is already a virtually decided matter," commented Stefanyshyna on the statement by the President of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, that with the current pace of reforms, Ukraine could join the EU by 2030.

The seriousness and realism of the EU's intentions are indicated by the fact that the EU budget for 2026–32/33 is being formed with Ukraine's membership in mind, explained Stefanyshyna.

"The seriousness of the EU's intentions can be assessed by the efforts of Hungary to block their implementation," added Stefanyshyna. "Hungary is now actively trying to block Ukraine's inclusion in the next EU budget."

Ukraine has also set a deadline of 2027 for all future obligations to the EU, without requesting transitional periods, she added. This means that part of the legislation for Ukraine's integration into the EU will be developed in 2025–2026 and adopted in 2027.

"Therefore, this goal [2030] is absolutely realistic. We are already integrated into the EU in many sectors. These include telecommunications services, trade, transport and customs liberalization, and energy markets," said Stefanyshyna.

There are still problematic issues, but the level of integration is already high, added the Deputy Prime Minister. Therefore, a large number of myths and threats have been dispelled. "Of course, the agricultural sector remains a trigger, but a huge range of issues is no longer a trigger," she concluded.

Source: Forbes

https://forbes.ua/news/stefanishina-chlenstvo-ukraini-v-es-u-2030-mu-faktichno-ukhvalene-rishennya-14032025-28031


Putin has previously said he would prefer if Ukrane was not in the EU, but its not a red line.
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Mar 14 2025 06:44pm
Trump wrote on X that lots of Ukrainian soldiers are encircled and might die for no reason. Putin almost immediatly took back his terrorist statement about the AFU soldiers in Kursk who are cut off. He said he is ready to take them as prisoners if the AFU officially orders the encircled troops to lay down their arms.
The Ukro reaction? They are furious at the proposition :wallbash:
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/politics/government/after-trump-appeal-putin-says-he-will-spare-ukrainians-in-kursk-if-they-surrender/ar-AA1AWuIt?ocid=BingNewsVerp

This post was edited by babun1024 on Mar 14 2025 06:50pm
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