Russians being Russians, hunting and killing rare bisons in occupied territory.



Filth, rot, decay, degradation. Hopefully these idiots are handed back to their kids in black trash bags.

This post was edited by Fnall on Mar 12 2025 05:56am

in a civilized society one one like to think that bullies wont go too far but this is a dark part of the world. sometimes the bullies are not one dimensional. sometimes the big brother is the psycho sadistic bully as well.

someone asked me privately "why keep posting videos from Sebastian Sas? He’s a Romanian coming out of the blue (what’s his credibility?) and constantly posting pro Russian videos missing any neutrality. E.g. e’s calling Lavrov one of the greatest politicians of all time.
It is no secret that Russia has been recruiting throwaway agents from Eastern European countries to sabotage throughout Europe and try to influence public opinion with false flag campaigns. To be fair I’m not expecting anything but pro Russian statements from the thread on this site."

So relating to this, if you go all the way back to the start of this thread you will see that, from the outset, I considered the entire war a complete failure of diplomacy. Furthermore, Since the war began, all attempts by all neutrals, or Russia, to end the war, were shut down, by the US and its Allies, repeatedly. This fact is a huge black mark against Western Leadership. Russia was going to either go to WW3 or it would beat Ukraine. Those were the two options on the table from day one. The west wanted to acquire more land (via Nato or however you want to call it) while Russia was concerned about its security. With two fundamentally different degrees of goal, Russia was always going to win.

Sebastian Sas acknowledges this point.

So if you have anyone else that you want to recommend, by all means go ahead and recommend and we will watch.

This is from ChatGPT, a US AI:

Summary of the US-Led Policy Against Negotiating with Russia (2022-2024)

From the beginning of the Ukraine conflict in 2022, the United States and its allies adopted a firm stance against diplomatic negotiations with Russia, advocating instead for military and economic pressure to weaken Moscow. This policy manifested in multiple instances where potential peace efforts were either discouraged or outright abandoned, with significant influence from Washington and London.
1. The Istanbul Peace Talks (March-April 2022)

In March 2022, Ukraine and Russia held negotiations in Istanbul, facilitated by Turkey, to discuss a potential peace settlement. Ukraine proposed a neutral status in exchange for security guarantees, and there were indications that Russia was willing to accept. However, despite initial progress, the talks fell apart.

Reports suggest that external influence, particularly from the United States and the United Kingdom, played a role in Ukraine's withdrawal from the negotiations. Russian officials and some Western sources later claimed that the US and its allies discouraged Kyiv from finalizing a deal, believing a prolonged war would better serve strategic interests by weakening Russia.
2. Boris Johnson’s Visit to Kyiv (April 2022)

In April 2022, then-British Prime Minister Boris Johnson made an unexpected visit to Kyiv, during which he reportedly urged President Volodymyr Zelensky to reject any peace agreement with Russia. Multiple sources, including European officials, suggested that Johnson conveyed a message on behalf of the West, stating that even if Ukraine was willing to negotiate, the US and UK were not prepared to accept a deal that would leave Russia with territorial gains. This visit marked a shift in Ukraine's approach, with Zelensky later stating that negotiations with Putin were impossible.
3. The US Stance: "No Talks Until Russia is Defeated"

Following these early diplomatic efforts, the US adopted a policy of military and financial support for Ukraine rather than negotiations. Key aspects of this approach included:

Massive Military Aid: The US provided tens of billions in military aid to Ukraine, ensuring that Kyiv had the capability to continue fighting rather than being forced into a settlement.
Political Pressure: US officials consistently rejected suggestions of negotiations, insisting that peace talks could only happen on Ukraine's terms—often described as a full Russian withdrawal from occupied territories, a demand that Moscow was unlikely to accept.
Discouraging Third-Party Mediation: When countries like China, Brazil, or even Turkey attempted to propose peace initiatives, US officials dismissed them as unrealistic or pro-Russian.

4. Later Developments (2023-2024) and Continued Rejection of Peace Efforts

As the war continued, further efforts at diplomacy were shut down. Russian officials claimed that they had attempted to negotiate a ceasefire or peace settlements, but the US maintained its position that Ukraine should not engage with Moscow unless it was in a position of strength.

By early 2024, Russian President Vladimir Putin proposed a ceasefire to freeze the conflict, but the US swiftly rejected the idea, reinforcing its position that only Ukraine could decide when to negotiate—despite clear Western influence over Kyiv’s decision-making.
Conclusion

The US-led policy against negotiating with Russia has been a defining factor in the prolonged nature of the Ukraine war. While early talks in Istanbul and other diplomatic backchannels suggested that a settlement might have been possible, Western intervention—particularly from the US and UK—ensured that negotiations were abandoned in favor of military escalation. Whether this approach has been successful in achieving its strategic goals remains a subject of debate, but it has undeniably prolonged the war and increased the human and economic costs for all parties involved.

https://x.com/Petr__Markov/status/1899457426841067650

Ukrainian Diplomat (Third secretary of the embassy of Ukraine to Japan) has clarified that Ukraine withdrew from Kursk as a clear test of Russia's willingness for peace during the US talks at Jeddah, and asks if Moscow will ""respond in kind""

Also in the rapidly updating Kursk;

Russian flags raised over the south suburbs of Sudzha which pretty much clears out the whole populated area Ukraine had occupied, I imagine there's still some grey area buffer with the smaller villages
Putin has personally visited the Kursk command post, he's on video in a military uniform which is unusual
There's some very clear evidence of Russian war criminals carrying out summary execution of POWs- reportedly pretty widespread for Kursk in general after the civilians were found dead in that basement, but there's some footage from today showing first a set of identifiable UA POWs, and other footage showing them dead on the ground

It remains to be seen, and probably never actually admitted, how many died on both sides of the Kursk front and how many UA soldiers were successfully exfiltrated because we know at least some were being captured on the retreat and there's some footage of bombing / drones striking those retreating
The cloud of obfuscation will probably remain even a decade from now

that is utterly daft.

so to be clear, for those people that still dont get what is happening:

1. The US has abandoned its plans to overthrow Russia, noting it is not feasible (i.e. it would start World War 3). So they have ditched Ukraine.
2. Ukraine tried to claim/reclaim land, however you want to put it/spin it, in order to have a "bargaining chip". What Ukraine, and most western leaders are still failing to grasp is that Russia has all the cards.
3. While Ukraine continues to lash out at Russia, they fail to understand that this is just going to make the negotiations worse. Ukraine refused to negotiate for 2 years, at the behest of the US and the UK. now they are insisting to negotiate. Russia sees no need to negotiate now, they are going to take what they want then negotiate.

so we have these delusional comments about Ukrainian Diplomat (Third secretary of the embassy of Ukraine to Japan) has clarified that Ukraine withdrew from Kursk as a clear test of Russia's willingness for peace during the US talks at Jeddah, and asks if Moscow will ""respond in kind""

TLDR: Ukraine made a move, they were blocked, and now are saying to Russia, dont respond. i hate to break it but Russia follows the international practice of tit for tat. (i.e. they will retaliate). As we continue to mention, Russia is pushing now.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 12 2025 01:55pm

I think they'll make the negotiations the old school way: push through until the opponent is about to collapse. The rest is going to be the history written by the victor.

i made an edit just now, for simplicity:

3. While Ukraine continues to lash out at Russia, they fail to understand that this is just going to make the negotiations worse. Ukraine refused to negotiate for 2 years, at the behest of the US and the UK. now they are insisting to negotiate. Russia sees no need to negotiate now, they are going to take what they want then negotiate.

TLDR: yes, exactly what you said.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 12 2025 01:55pm

Russia is gathering troops at the border and Putin or his look alike visited the army there. I'd be very worried if I were Ukraine. I think they want to create the buffer zone themselves.

you dwell on Ukro / Russ telegram channels. What is happening there?

This post was edited by babun1024 on Mar 12 2025 02:07pm