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Mar 4 2025 11:48am
Bear in mind the hot air is coming mostly from Trump, he'll make a dozen wild vows before rescinding most and settling on actual policy


He has basically said he wants to end the war. the ball is in the EU court as to how they deal with it.
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Mar 4 2025 12:48pm
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/03/04/trump-ukraine-aid-pause-reaction/

Zelensky claims to have offered Russia a ""partial ceasefire""
it would take the form of, I quote;

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We are ready to work fast to end the war, and the first stages could be the release of prisoners and truce in the sky — ban on missiles, long-ranged drones, bombs on energy and other civilian infrastructure — and truce in the sea immediately, if Russia will do the same. Then we want to move very fast through all next stages and to work with the US to agree a strong final deal.


In exchange for Russia voluntarily ending its totally lopsided advantage in missiles, long-range drones, glide bombs on energy targets and cities in Ukraine, Zelensky will agree to continue fighting Russia on the front lines with American drones.
He's very serious about peace talks this time.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/03/04/trump-ukraine-aid-pause-reaction/

Zelensky claims to have offered Russia a ""partial ceasefire""
it would take the form of, I quote;



In exchange for Russia voluntarily ending its totally lopsided advantage in missiles, long-range drones, glide bombs on energy targets and cities in Ukraine, Zelensky will agree to continue fighting Russia on the front lines with American drones.
He's very serious about peace talks this time.


xD

it has been widely reported that russia is about to do a large offensive. so they wont say yes to anything like this.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 4 2025 01:37pm
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Is there a point where even ardent warhawks or ukrainian partisans have to admit that this is getting farcical?
Zelensky offering a "ceasefire" where Russia would stop all the forms of attacks in which it has total superiority, but Ukraine would continue fighting with its weapons.
I think even if you totally believed Ukraine should continue fighting to the death and the US should support it 100% or even push for a counterinvasion and WW3; you can't pretend Zelensky is making a good faith offer of a ceasefire.
And its very plainly only being floated so he can claim Russia is refusing a ceasefire when they obviously don't agree.

"You agree to roll over in a fetal position while I stomp you in the nuts" isn't a truce. Even after being harangued by Trump, even after the US actually pulled support, Zelensky still won't accept an actual ceasefire.
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As Trump halts aid to Ukraine, EU unveils $840 billion defense investment "ReArm Europe" plan
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-russia-war-trump-eu-defense-investment-rearm-europe-plan/

Defending yourself aint cheap
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As Trump halts aid to Ukraine, EU unveils $840 billion defense investment "ReArm Europe" plan
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-russia-war-trump-eu-defense-investment-rearm-europe-plan/

Defending yourself aint cheap


Good. I hope Europe goes bankrupt funding Ukraine to die to the last man while also grinding down Russia's ability to make war for generations. Ungrateful vassals and a kleptocratic thugocracy beating each other to death while the USA takes care of itself for once. Love to see it
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