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Feb 28 2025 05:32pm
Big if true, maybe this public spat was what they were looking for to serve as the trigger.

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🚨The Trump administration is considering ending all ongoing shipments of military aid to Ukraine in response to Zelensky’s remarks in the Oval Office on Friday and his perceived intransigence in the peace process, per senior administration official


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Feb 28 2025 05:32pm
Zelensky doesn’t have the room to be tired of anything.

I swear people look at Zelensky like he’s the second coming


Second coming? Like how Trump's followers see him as sent by God? Consider him the messiah? Maybe he is! He is selling bibles, after all.

Or maybe look at the facts. We convinced Ukraine to get rid of nuclear weapons in exchange for security assurance. Do you understand what that means? We gave our word we would protect our allies just short of troops on the ground. We have to keep our word.

Trump is a putin cuck.
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Feb 28 2025 05:34pm
Big if true, maybe this public spat was what they were looking for to serve as the trigger.



https://x.com/john_hudson/status/1895591435812159780?s=46


5d chess. Trump also had to throw us a bone after the Epstein files blunder.
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Feb 28 2025 05:35pm
Second coming? Like how Trump's followers see him as sent by God? Consider him the messiah? Maybe he is! He is selling bibles, after all.

Or maybe look at the facts. We convinced Ukraine to get rid of nuclear weapons in exchange for security assurance. Do you understand what that means? We gave our word we would protect our allies just short of troops on the ground. We have to keep our word.

Trump is a putin cuck.


Will crying online repel Russia? Go join the front lines you coward. If all you wretched fiends joined the front lines you would easily repel Russia
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Feb 28 2025 05:35pm
Second coming? Like how Trump's followers see him as sent by God? Consider him the messiah? Maybe he is! He is selling bibles, after all.

Or maybe look at the facts. We convinced Ukraine to get rid of nuclear weapons in exchange for security assurance. Do you understand what that means? We gave our word we would protect our allies just short of troops on the ground. We have to keep our word.

Trump is a putin cuck.


We gave Ukraine enough money (which they lost tons of btw! where did that $ go?) . I'd rather support China & Russia at this point.
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Feb 28 2025 05:44pm
Big if true, maybe this public spat was what they were looking for to serve as the trigger.



https://x.com/john_hudson/status/1895591435812159780?s=46


If that includes American ISTAR, Ukraine can pack it up immediately. The nanosecond the Russians realize that uncle sam's cargo is not touching down anymore, is the moment that Ukraine's fate is sealed. A grim reality
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Feb 28 2025 05:51pm
Ukraine's fate is still up in the air. The American interests in Ukraine aren't. That's one distinction to be made in all this.
We're not winning the war, we're not rebuilding the iron curtain and perpetuating a forever proxy war against Russia. That is going to come to an end. Russia is not going to invade the baltics, NATO is going to resume a rough approximation of the status quo ante when the dust is settled. Maybe the EU will question how much of a burden it has from Ukraine, but honestly it won't trouble us much. Our interests are mostly settled, maybe we can strike up deals with Ukraine and Russia for rebuilding and resources but its not really a major consideration in the scope of the world, not compared to hostilities between the two biggest nuclear powers.

But for Ukrainians? This ball is in their court, I can't tell you how this ends. This is absolutely the kind of step that could be written in history books as presaging the fall of the zelensky regime and western government and create a power vacuum like we've been dreading for a few years now, and as I pointed out repeatedly, the heavily armed Nazis who already overthrew one government, are the obvious inheritors in a vacuum. Can Zelensky appeal to the EU to prop him up and be the new puppetmasters? Will he come back to Trump with his tail tucked between his legs? I don't know. Its chaos
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Feb 28 2025 05:51pm
Will crying online repel Russia? Go join the front lines you coward. If all you wretched fiends joined the front lines you would easily repel Russia


We gave Ukraine enough money (which they lost tons of btw! where did that $ go?) . I'd rather support China & Russia at this point.


Sounds like we have some Putin lovers.
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Feb 28 2025 05:54pm
Ukraine's fate is still up in the air. The American interests in Ukraine aren't. That's one distinction to be made in all this.
We're not winning the war, we're not rebuilding the iron curtain and perpetuating a forever proxy war against Russia. That is going to come to an end. Russia is not going to invade the baltics, NATO is going to resume a rough approximation of the status quo ante when the dust is settled. Maybe the EU will question how much of a burden it has from Ukraine, but honestly it won't trouble us much. Our interests are mostly settled, maybe we can strike up deals with Ukraine and Russia for rebuilding and resources but its not really a major consideration in the scope of the world, not compared to hostilities between the two biggest nuclear powers.

But for Ukrainians? This ball is in their court, I can't tell you how this ends. This is absolutely the kind of step that could be written in history books as presaging the fall of the zelensky regime and western government and create a power vacuum like we've been dreading for a few years now, and as I pointed out repeatedly, the heavily armed Nazis who already overthrew one government, are the obvious inheritors in a vacuum. Can Zelensky appeal to the EU to prop him up and be the new puppetmasters? Will he come back to Trump with his tail tucked between his legs? I don't know. Its chaos


When the dust settles, the Azov boys are going to hunt down the draft dodgers.

They'll be hanging under bridges missing limbs & their heads with signs reading "I was a coward for not defending the homeland"

This post was edited by El1te on Feb 28 2025 05:57pm
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