Quote (thundercock @ 13 Apr 2022 20:15)

Complete fantasy. Why would you use a map from 12 years ago when so much has changed since then? That's like looking at the 2008 Presidential election and saying YUP, INDIANA IS A SWING STATE!!

Frankly, no one is going to give a shit about "what the people want" when drawing these boundaries. If Russia controls a particular region, they won't give it up unless they are compensated appropriately (i.e. lifting sanctions, water rights, etc.) I see no reason why the "might makes right" principle won't apply and we'll just have to wait for tens of thousands of soldiers on each side to die.

Quote (thundercock @ 13 Apr 2022 20:39)

... even though there are plenty of ethnic Russians in Kharkiv, I doubt that they will forgive Russia for what they've done. Likewise, I don't think the people of Zaporizhzhia are going to be forgiving of Russia either.

Quote (thundercock @ Apr 13 2022 02:39pm)

You can definitely get part of it. For example, the coastal areas would be Democrat and the South is mostly Republican. However, you'd miss a lot of things as well such as Rust Belt realignment, how urban centers are becoming more dominant and affected statewide races, etc. Anyway, I don't think we're going to be able to look at ethnic breakdowns in a vacuum because the horrors of war are going to greatly affect people's opinions. For example, even though there are plenty of ethnic Russians in Kharkiv, I doubt that they will forgive Russia for what they've done. Likewise, I don't think the people of Zaporizhzhia are going to be forgiving of Russia either. On the other hand, the people of Crimea are likely fine with what's going on. I really hope this war doesn't last until winter because shit is going to be really fucked up if that happens.

As for the play on words:
Say, "I'm hungry" in Russian and "I'm cold." Think about the difference in proper Russian and then how the Ukrainian accent deals with that difference.

Quote (thundercock @ Apr 13 2022 12:26pm)

That's a simple fact. Black people love fried chicken and watermelon because they are delicious. It's not racist to point that out.

Also, you've shown time after time that you don't know the first thing about Russian culture. You're just a conspiracy loving redneck with no appreciation of ACTUAL Russian culture or an understanding of the Russian zeitgeist. Have you even read Russian authors like Bulgakov? Are you familiar with Russian plays? Russian children's animation? Do you understand how Central Asia and the Caucuses have influenced Russian cuisine? Until you've lived and breathed those things, you have no room to talk about Russian people. You can pretend that you're superior to other Americans but you're actually no different than them. You're just as clueless about other cultures as the rest of your hick brethren.

Quote (chopstickz777 @ Apr 13 2022 01:12pm)

If you were to run around yelling about how every black person loves chicken and is constantly eating watermelons, you would be called out for it quickly and branded a racist.

But engaging in similar tropes towards Russians is not only OK, but encouraged in our society.

Russia has become THE example of George Orwell's 5 minutes of hate that he created in 1984. Only instead of 5 minutes of daily hate, now it's constant hate, 24/7, all the time, and anybody who disagrees is a Russian agent, hell in Europe you can go to jail for FIFTEEN YEARS for disagreeing with this 24/7 hate.

And you don't see a problem with that?

Then you're a part of the fucking problem.

Quote (ofthevoid @ 13 Apr 2022 20:55)

Most of Zaporizhzhia saw relatively little fighting, the Russians just took it with relative ease. The reason is because it didn't have large metro areas for the Ukrainian army to fall back upon, that matters because when the Russians came most Ukrainian forces realized that meeting the Russians in open fields away from cities would mean certain destruction, as they would just get bombed to death. That's why most Ukrainian forces fell back and entrenched themselves in large cities. So with that being said, I think areas under Russian control that saw little relative fighting are going to be much more willing to accept Russian control, Zap being one of them meanwhile Kharkiv probably not.

I think i get the play on words, the two words are near identical when pronounced in Ukrainian as Ukrainians don't sound out the letter 'g' versus Russian where g and h have distinct phonetics.

Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 13 2022 01:06pm)

getting triggered by what was clearly a joke based on tropes. yeah, you're totally not russian.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 13 2022 03:11pm)

Are you talking about Zaporizhzhia Oblast or Zaporizhzhia, the actual city? Because the city hasn't been captured by the Russian afaik.

Quote (babun1024 @ Apr 13 2022 07:11pm)

Unfortunately, the matter is more serious. Putin won't trust or agree to any agreement with the west or Ukraine unitl his forces can't fight anymore. There is no stopping him now. Zelenksy thinks he's got a winning chance backed by the US so he won't surrender. The US isn't interested in peace at all. They're shipping as many weapons as possible. Secondary objective is to deplete Russian resources so they can't start a fight anymore. So, worst case scenario, the war will go on until Ukraine is completely destroyed and doesn't exist as a nation anymore. I'm talking about Stalin like measures of population displacement and repopulation of the area. Best case scenario would be Russia not being able to continue their attack. Short term, Russia is going to attack Mykolaev, then proceed to Odessa. This time around, they aren't going to take prisoners.
All countries supplying weapons to Ukraine are actually dumping their outdated systems to buy new arms. The exceptions are anti tank and anti air weapons. Ukraine is asking for "heavy" weapons but you need to school their soldiers in their use. A leopard from Germany is just another vehicle if used by untrained personnel. US Jets can't be operated without training. Supplying them to Ukraine doesn't make sense. They also need heavy artillery to keep Russians away from their positions and to defend their anti air capabilities against bombers. Their best 20000 troops are located in Donbass area (to be encircled soon), they're going to be outnumbered 5 to 1. All in all, Ukraine is fu**** one way or another. Whatever will be left can't be described as a "win" or "loss".

Quote (thesnipa @ 13 Apr 2022 14:06)

getting triggered by what was clearly a joke based on tropes. yeah, you're totally not russian.

Quote (IchBinDaddy @ Apr 13 2022 01:47pm)

Putin Paycheck incoming