Do you think the Russians are that retarded to basically settle for a fake peace and watch Ukraine armed to the teeth for round two? I doubt it lol. There would be no hiding something of this scale and a few Euro observers wouldn't be able to somehow prevent them from starting the war again. Also, who's European troops are actually going there? Like i mean give me an itemized contribution by country, are Germans contributing 10k troops, are the poles and the French are the Italians? If the Ukrainians start to build up and start to attack you think these Euro troops will be engaging the Russians or how does this actually work? You realize this contingent force wouldn't be showing up there with tens of billions of arms ready for war but would basically look like UN troops in Africa or other parts of the globe.

Ukraine was offered sovereignty in the Minsk agreement in Istanbul in many other talks, nor was restriction to join EU part of Russia's ask. You're moving the goal posts here. Look at their ask from Minsk/Istanbul and level set to what they would be getting here. No NATO for Ukraine, 20% of the land, no sanctions and an end to the war? No objective person would call that a loss.

the details were previously posted. its all pie in the sky for now though.

here:

European nations are deliberating the deployment of peacekeeping troops to Ukraine as part of a potential ceasefire agreement with Russia. The United Kingdom, France, and several Nordic countries have expressed support for a Europe-led peacekeeping initiative, contingent upon a ceasefire. Germany, however, has shown reluctance, citing concerns over resource allocation and strategic priorities.

Discussions have considered forming a coalition of 5 to 8 European countries to contribute troops. Estimates suggest that a European contingent could range from 40,000 to 100,000 personnel, with significant contributions potentially coming from France, Germany, Italy, Poland, and the UK.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has emphasized the necessity of U.S. involvement, advocating for a force of around 200,000 troops. However, logistical challenges make such a number unlikely, with more modest figures being considered. The UK alone might contribute up to 20,000 soldiers. Support from the United States, such as air cover and missile defense systems, is deemed crucial, though direct U.S. troop involvement appears improbable.

It's important to note that these discussions are ongoing, and no definitive plans have been established. The situation remains fluid, with various diplomatic and strategic considerations influencing the potential deployment of peacekeeping forces in Ukraine.

This post was edited by ferdia on Feb 6 2025 04:18pm

Of course it's pie in the sky. Because serious people understand that if you put your troops there and engage Russia then you are dragged into the war, which not a single Euro country truly wants. And 40-100k troops wouldn't actually be enough to scare Russia that probably has 500k troops in Ukraine today. If anything it would be peace keeper like force, like i said similarly to UN troops in hotspots of the world vs an actual NATO army armed for war.

If that's the Trump team's starting point, Russia will be pushing for more. At the very least I expect the demand for Kherson and Zaporizhia to stand, and Ukraine would need to withdraw from the last ~30% of Donetsk.

Russia has to be worried about the economic situation, but they'll have the upper hand for the next year. I expect them to drag out the negotiations and hope Ukraine's manpower well finally runs dry.

The United States is handing off leadership of the international group that manages military aid to Ukraine, a sign that President Donald Trump’s Pentagon may play a lesser role in supporting Kyiv

United Kingdom Secretary of State for Defense John Healey will chair the group as it gathers for its 26th time next week in Brussels, marking the first time an American defense secretary has not convened the meeting in its three-year history.
https://www.armytimes.com/global/europe/2025/02/06/uk-to-chair-next-meeting-of-ukraine-military-aid-group/

BING BONG

Appeal by the Chief Rabbi of Ukraine expressing gratitude to the neo-Nazis from Azov and requesting the international community's assistance in their release from captivity. Maybe it's worth freeing him first? He even blinked twice.

Yes please, can't stand her guts.


There is no way he did it voluntarily.

This post was edited by babun1024 on Feb 7 2025 05:09am

Advisor for Zelensky’s chief of staff, Mikhailo Podolyak, says direct conflict between the US and Russia would be a preferable scenario for Ukraine because “this is another level”.