I don't think about nazi's or nazism.

e- Here is the thing, Ukraine is wrecked, even if putin somehow 'won', what the hell is he winning? It's a burnt out landscape now. cities/towns are leveled.

e2- China stopped flexing nuts because they saw it didn't work out for russia and don't want to be trapped in a war time economy too.

This post was edited by Mondain on Feb 5 2025 02:38pm

Dresden looked worse in its time. So, did Churchill, with whom the owner of the sweatiest olive-green T-shirt compares himself, win back then?

This post was edited by Norlander on Feb 5 2025 02:51pm

https://www.shorenewsnetwork.com/2025/02/05/politico-faces-payroll-issues-amid-revelations-of-u-s-government-funding/

I mean you can have left leaning or right leaning MSM outlets but financing them directly from tax dollars to be lefties is criminal.

This post was edited by babun1024 on Feb 5 2025 03:10pm

I mean, its likely that things will go to shit, but seriously this is popcorn stuff. thanks for posting that!
she has such a great job, she has 100 ppl to choose from and if they ask the wrong question she can ostracize that person for 4 years lol. I loved how she let someone from the back row ask a question, god its comedy gold "you are all equal in my eyes, except politico ofc, your inferior" teehehe.

This post was edited by ferdia on Feb 5 2025 03:12pm

Trial balloon or real plan? Timeline is optimistic. So far Trump hasn’t done much to actually push for any peace . In fact funding and weapons have continued to Ukraine. Doubt this happens by April.

Also half trillion reconstruction plan seems low IMO. Germany over long term will prob dump at least a trillion into Ukraine.



https://x.com/kobeissiletter/status/1887529182806110377?s=46

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Feb 6 2025 12:04pm

This doesnt seem like a favorable deal for Russia. Yes, getting sanctions lifted would no doubt help their economy and overall bottom line, but Ukraine gaining access to the EU with American weapons still being supplied tips the scales in Ukraine's favor (imo)

Russia has most definitely lost a lot of men and resources for only 20% of ukraine

This post was edited by zorzin on Feb 6 2025 01:39pm

he did more then Biden, he picked up the phone.

It's not highlighted, but if you read line 4, i think it's implicit that Ukraine isn't going to be re-arming for round 2 afterwards. The Euros would basically serve as the buffer to not have fights start up again. It's not hard to monitor from Russia's POV either. If Ukraine looks to be re-arming again it would be pretty easy for Russia to notice and break the peace.

IMO this is a neutral deal for Russia but i think they are tired and would view it as acceptable. It's basically you keep what you have while Ukraine doesn't get into NATO. Not a terrible deal. Maybe they would want all of Donetsk/Zap/Kherson but may not be worth to keep fighting and say no to peace.

Would it? Under this proposal, you'd have significant troop contingents of European NATO members standing between Russia and Kyiv, so Russia couldn't come back to nip a re-arming Ukraine in the bud without having to go through those first.
It's also a MASSIVE contradiction to on the one hand argue that Russian fears of NATO expansionism are far and away the main casus belli, and on the other hand expect them to accept NATO troops being permanently stationed on Ukrainian soil.




This would be a terrible deal for Russia. Ukraine would keep its sovereignty, could join the EU, would have security assurances which diminish Russia's blackmail potential against them and would sign off on NATO contingents being officially stationed on their doorstep.

In this case, they would have played two cards which can only be played once (the soviet-era stockpiles of artillery and shells, closing the gas tap to Europe at a time when Europe has a dangerous degree on dependence on them), sacrificed hundreds of thousands of soldiers, alienated their best customers and taken a massive economic hit, and for what? Gaining some 8% of Ukrainian territory beyond what they already held before Feb 22 and having a formal guarantee of no Ukraine in NATO, which was impossible in practical terms anyway?

This deal would only make any sense for the Russians if they 1.) could trust that the Ukrainians won't try to re-arm, and 2.) if this whole war was truly fought over NATO membership and nothing else; if economic concerns or retaining their sphere of influence had truly been no motivation for this war.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 6 2025 03:13pm

EU paying for it is music to my ears