Both sides had been continuously funding subversion of the other for decades, with only a single interruption: Russia during the 90s because they were broke, lol.

I disagree that having Russian-speaking areas in non-Russian states post breakup of the USSR was an aggression against Russia, but it surely was unfortunate how things panned out. When Khrushchev gifted Crimea to Ukraine, nobody imagined that it could one day end up in a different country.

The stuff you write about Ukrainian nationalists trying to annex parts of Poland is fearmongering and pure speculation.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 4 2025 09:58pm

During the cold war yes, of course.

USA continued aggressive action after they won the war, while Russia was reforming and moving *away* from communism. Talk about madness but that's about the time that the judeo bolshevists took over the US government.

How is it fearmongering when it's already happened, committed by the same people? Banderites are Galician ultra nationalists who previously massacred Poles in Galicia. The OUN was created as a Galician liberation movement *from* the Poles, who systematically ethnically discriminated against them in the 20s. And the Polish government have stated its a likely problem.

This post was edited by El1te on Feb 4 2025 10:04pm

The Cold War was never exclusively about ideology (capitalism vs communism), it was always also a good old power struggle between the two leading nations at the time.


The word "previously" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here, since you're talking about events which lie one full century in the past.

"How could I, as a German, ever trust the Italians again after Italian nationalists previously massacred Germanic people?" - see how ridiculous this logic becomes as more and more time has passed?

Virtually no living Ukrainian has suffered ethnic discrimination at the hands of the Poles, nor are there any Poles under the ripe age of 80 left who suffered from the terrorism of the OUN.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 4 2025 10:36pm

That's probably true for the later years, as the years went by the US forgot what it was all about, which was constraining the aggressive expansion of Bolshevism, thus protecting the would-be victims. Even then, to continue the aggression after winning the war was madness and stupidity. After defeating an enemy in war the proper action is to mend ties, pacify the population through aid and mercy, etc. Like the Marshall plan. This was a colossal fuck up that turned the new reformed Christian Russian state against us. Madness and stupidity.

It's relevant because like I said they're the same people: Banderites, with a continuous unbroken transfer of knowledge. If you had an ethnic Latin faction who had a continuous transfer of knowledge from the generation that wanted to reclaim a part of present Germany (from a claim to the Roman Empire I guess? Depending on the parts?) you absolutely should be concerned.

You're right that no living Ukrainian has, but they don't care. They care about redressing historical grievances. Of which Galicia is a huge one going back many centuries.

This post was edited by El1te on Feb 4 2025 11:13pm

Colonel Alexei Zubkov, head of the Investigative Committee Forensic Center, fell out of a 4th floor bathroom window at his work today around 4pm in Moscow. Found conscious on the street but had no recollection of what happened. Ruled an accident.

Are you even paying attention to what users post here, all of that has been posted here multiple times


The West and Ukraine started openly talking about Ukrainian integration into the EU in 2004 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yalta_European_Strategy

Of course there would've been a lot of talk behind the scenes before that and in fact a bunch of Eastern EU countries had joined the EU and NATO before that, making it absolutely clear to the Russians that Ukraine would be next. How many times has this been posted


I have linked a 2014 USAID Crimea poll in this topic several times and other users have too, showing how they for example asked the people in Crimea what kind of anti Russia protests they would find acceptable. I had this poll bookmarked and guess what it's no longer available LMFAO --> https://pdf.usaid.gov/pdf_docs/pnaec705.pdf

When this stuff was posted in this topic no one of the pro-NATO mob was interested looking at it cuz "we're the good guys" and "Ukraine is voluntarily entering NATO so they can" which is funny because USAID evidence literally shows countries like Ukraine are influenced and bought with US taxpayer money, lol.

I am more interested in kickbacks for the politicians and who had the most profits from money laundering.

This post was edited by babun1024 on Feb 5 2025 02:34am

Sure but that's not the point I made. Fact of the matter is that things like USAID and 2004 Yalta EU / Ukraine Strategy have been pointed out many times, pro-NATO crowd would simply dismiss it and are now confronted with the reality.

Trump will get to the bottom of this and I think it's great. Too bad Biden pardoned his inner circle and his whole fucking family during his last days in office.

I think the doubters should have a look at USaid operations world wide revealed by DOGE. They'll get a general idea what was up.

This article is written by a very left leaning outlet and criticizes DOGE. However, you can extract very useful information about the scope of influencing USaid did through MSM. USaid is also a donor to BBC
https://www.cjr.org/the_media_today/usaid-and-the-media-in-a-time-of-monsters.php

What they mean with free press and journalism is actually left wing press. They were all dependent on US taxpayer money to exist.

Zelensky gave an interview to Piers Morgan and then wrote a huge thread on X summarizing it. Absent from Zelensky’s thread based on Piers Morgan interview is his major step towards compromise - a stated agreement to talk directly with Putin despite his own official self-ban.

Zelensky formulates it as his willingness to end the active phase of war, which suggests agreeing to a ceasefire and negotiating peace later. This is something Putin is not very likely to agree to given Russian advantage on the battlefield. Moscow will press for a lasting peace based on Istanbul framework plus all the territory it has grabbed so far. It has every incentive and capacity to keep fighting until that goal is reached.

The rest of the interview is for a show. At the end of the day, he will need to tell Ukrainians that he did everything he possibly could, but the West is weak and treacherous so there is no choice. All the outrage about elusive NATO membership and Ukraine’s lost nuclear weapons (which Ukraine never really controlled back in the 1990s) is preparing the Ukrainian audience to the inevitable.