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Apr 13 2022 10:16am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Apr 13 2022 08:52am)
People who propose that India should increase its trade with Russia right now should be send to the east front.


Have you ever stopped and thought to consider how the propaganda-du-jour has turned you into a GWBush style neocon? Or is this the same impulsive obedience to official narratives from the flouride-stare crowd that lead to covid tyrants, or perhaps both?
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Apr 13 2022 10:19am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Apr 13 2022 08:20am)
The alliance is not founded to protect countries from " Russia " . It was founded to prevent Soviet from spreading their communist ideologue.
Should have disbanded after the fall of Soviet Union and formed into a EURO Army instead without the USA being involved.
Europe should have been self sufficient to counter a " Russian " attack.


They're the same picture dot jpg
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Apr 13 2022 10:19am
Quote (IchBinDaddy @ 14 Apr 2022 00:05)
That’s totally fine.

What I’m saying is, is this chopdix kid needs another Putin paycheck today.


Allow me if I may...

India as a country has been looked down by the West and USA for quite some time now.
The thing is when India had problems with China, the first country that came out and mediate was Russia. The USA and the West have never lifted a finger to help deescalate problems between the two countries.

If you think that the friendship between Russia and China is extremely tight wait till you find out the friendship between India and Russia.
Russia and India goes way back even during the Afghanistan war in the late 70s. India actually supported the Russians both politically and Militarily. And as you know USA and the West supported the Afghan rebels and they turn into Al Qaeda etc etc and surprisingly China supported the USA during then.

Now fast forward to recent 20 years, the Indian government tried on various occasions to buy Weapons from USA and more often than not the USA turned them down.
So India went to Russia instead. Here is the interesting part , the deal that Russia offered to India with no strings attached are much greater than the weapon deals handed to China.

Russia and India formed strategic weapon production and partnership owned by both states and Russia allowed the transfer of Weapon Technology to India which obviously the USA will never allow it and Russia never afford these sweet deals to China.
Fast forward to the current Ukraine and Russia situation.

Now because USA needed India to support the West agenda, they are now willing to sell weapons to India and etc etc.
But the reply from India is this.

1. your weapons are a lot more expensive
2. In regards to oil and gas you want us to sanction Russia with you while you were not on my side before when we have problems with China
3. We are always neutral and we don't want to choose sides but clearly at this moment we knew who are our friends when they have stood by us for the past 40 to 50 years.
4. You belittle us at every opportunity in the past
5. And now because we choose to be neutral , you are threatening sanctions on us and you are using the " human rights " play book on us now because we don't stand in line.

Long story short India for the past couple of weeks just flipped the USA and the West off diplomatically.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Apr 13 2022 10:22am
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Apr 13 2022 10:20am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 14 Apr 2022 00:10)
but is it that big ?




Yes pretty big, but USA is doing even more oil and gas purchase from Russia now before the sanction date starts.
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Apr 13 2022 10:21am
Quote (Santara @ 14 Apr 2022 00:19)
They're the same picture dot jpg


Fair enough but I always separate the war against political ideologue and Russia supposed " imperialism " .
But i do understand your point of view.
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Apr 13 2022 10:22am
Quote (Nibthebarb @ 13 Apr 2022 16:16)
Have you ever stopped and thought to consider how the propaganda-du-jour has turned you into a GWBush style neocon? Or is this the same impulsive obedience to official narratives from the flouride-stare crowd that lead to covid tyrants, or perhaps both?


France & Germany declined to participate in the million iraqis civilians assassination your country did. (Along with mostly... UK)
Are we killing millions civilian Russians now ? Nope. Can sanctions force Russia to stop or slow it down ? Yep.
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Apr 13 2022 10:27am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Apr 13 2022 05:19pm)
Allow me if I may...

India as a country has been looked down by the West and USA for quite some time now.
The thing is when India had problems with China, the first country that came out and mediate was Russia. The USA and the West have never lifted a finger to help deescalate problems between the two countries.

If you think that the friendship between Russia and China is extremely tight wait till you find out the friendship between India and Russia.
Russia and India goes way back even during the Afghanistan war in the late 70s. India actually supported the Russians both politically and Militarily. And as you know USA and the West supported the Afghan rebels and they turn into Al Qaeda etc etc and surprisingly China supported the USA during then.

Now fast forward to recent 20 years, the Indian government tried on various occasions to buy Weapons from USA and more often than not the USA turned them down.
So India went to Russia instead. Here is the interesting part , the deal that Russia offered to India with no strings attached are much greater than the weapon deals handed to China.

Russia and India formed strategic weapon production and partnership owned by both states and Russia allowed the transfer of Weapon Technology to India which obviously the USA will never allow it and Russia never afford these sweet deals to China.
Fast forward to the current Ukraine and Russia situation.

Now because USA needed India to support the West agenda, they are now willing to sell weapons to India and etc etc.
But the reply from India is this.

1. your weapons are a lot more expensive
2. In regards to oil and gas you want us to sanction Russia with you while you were not on my side before when we have problems with China
3. We are always neutral and we don't want to choose sides but clearly at this moment we knew who are our friends when they have stood by us for the past 40 to 50 years.
4. You belittle us at every opportunity in the past
5. And now because we choose to be neutral , you are threatening sanctions on us and you are using the " human rights " play book on us now because we don't stand in line.

Long story short India for the past couple of weeks just flipped the USA and the West off diplomatically.


wow.

also, i edited my above post re: analogy. happy to be challenged on this by you.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 13 2022 10:28am
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Yes pretty big, but USA is doing even more oil and gas purchase from Russia now before the sanction date starts.


Are you telling me that since Russian agression started India drastically increased it's oil or gas import ?


Please can you show me India on these charts i think have reading problems







This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Apr 13 2022 10:37am
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Quote (IchBinDaddy @ Apr 13 2022 10:05am)
That’s totally fine.

What I’m saying is, is this chopdix kid needs another Putin paycheck today.


Still crying because of someone that has an opinion different from yours I see.

Quote (Surfpunk @ Apr 13 2022 10:15am)


Oh yes, DarthputinKGB, a true twitter masterpiece.

Meanwhile anybody who exposes Ukraine's actual warcrimes on twitter are being systematically purged by the fascist twitter admins, turning the entire platform into little more than a Pentagon-controlled echo chamber.

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Apr 13 2022 10:32am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 13 Apr 2022 11:19)
Allow me if I may...

India as a country has been looked down by the West and USA for quite some time now.
The thing is when India had problems with China, the first country that came out and mediate was Russia. The USA and the West have never lifted a finger to help deescalate problems between the two countries.

If you think that the friendship between Russia and China is extremely tight wait till you find out the friendship between India and Russia.
Russia and India goes way back even during the Afghanistan war in the late 70s. India actually supported the Russians both politically and Militarily. And as you know USA and the West supported the Afghan rebels and they turn into Al Qaeda etc etc and surprisingly China supported the USA during then.

Now fast forward to recent 20 years, the Indian government tried on various occasions to buy Weapons from USA and more often than not the USA turned them down.
So India went to Russia instead. Here is the interesting part , the deal that Russia offered to India with no strings attached are much greater than the weapon deals handed to China.

Russia and India formed strategic weapon production and partnership owned by both states and Russia allowed the transfer of Weapon Technology to India which obviously the USA will never allow it and Russia never afford these sweet deals to China.
Fast forward to the current Ukraine and Russia situation.

Now because USA needed India to support the West agenda, they are now willing to sell weapons to India and etc etc.
But the reply from India is this.

1. your weapons are a lot more expensive
2. In regards to oil and gas you want us to sanction Russia with you while you were not on my side before when we have problems with China
3. We are always neutral and we don't want to choose sides but clearly at this moment we knew who are our friends when they have stood by us for the past 40 to 50 years.
4. You belittle us at every opportunity in the past
5. And now because we choose to be neutral , you are threatening sanctions on us and you are using the " human rights " play book on us now because we don't stand in line.

Long story short India for the past couple of weeks just flipped the USA and the West off diplomatically.



India’s biggest “enemy” is China, no?
That’s why we have The Quad relationship.
Russia and china are allies but China and India are always at some sort of border dispute with physical fighting, no?
Russia supplies arms to India, which India uses in defense from China, no?

Is this correct so far?
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