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Jan 6 2025 01:28pm
Azov Movement leader and 3rd detached assault commander Andriy Biletsky says that ceasefire “on any conditions” effective on Jan 20 (Trump’s inauguration day) or later would not be a catastrophe, instead Ukraine could embark on modernisation and avoid sliding into anarchy.

The far right are major beneficiaries of this war and Azov is a massive war business best comparable with Prigozhin’s former Wagner empire. Yet, he is calling for peace. Go figure.


I wonder what Boris Johnston would say about this. actually, I don't have to wonder!

You refuse to acknowledge how Russia work: if you start negotiating and giving them things, they keep asking for more and more.
They break every deal.
You might buy a year or maybe even 3 years by negotiating, but thats it, you just feed the beast, the beast gets free food and the beast grows bigger.
Sometimes you gotta kill the beast while its still small, even if you might fail.
Still better die fighting, than die being tortured and massacred in some kind of Bucha. This is what Ukrainians understand. Or at least used to, before many patriots were killed by Russia.
In Poland during the ww2 the jews they knew they were doomed, but still made an uprising.
Just because they prefered to die fighting, and maybe kill some nazi if they are lucky.


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Jan 6 2025 02:25pm
I wonder what Boris Johnston would say about this. actually, I don't have to wonder!


Polish were openly antisemitic way before WW2. Here is a newspaper from 1937 shaming those “who buy from Jews”.


Antisemitism was still very much a problem even after WW2, eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kielce_pogrom

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Jan 6 2025 03:06pm
Polish were openly antisemitic way before WW2. Here is a newspaper from 1937 shaming those “who buy from Jews”.
https://i.imgur.com/Yf8vSk8.jpeg

Antisemitism was still very much a problem even after WW2, eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kielce_pogrom


Before the war jewish people were the richer ones in Poland, so its not strange poorer catholics didnt really like rich jewish people.
Nearly all of the businessman were jewish.
I think the jews didnt have much respect for poorer catholics either :)
So not only the jews were different religion, not only different culture, but they were richer ones.
Yet the both religion people lived in peace.

Why do you post it? How does it relate to Ukraine-Russia war?
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Jan 6 2025 04:10pm
Azov Movement leader and 3rd detached assault commander Andriy Biletsky says that ceasefire “on any conditions” effective on Jan 20 (Trump’s inauguration day) or later would not be a catastrophe, instead Ukraine could embark on modernisation and avoid sliding into anarchy.

The far right are major beneficiaries of this war and Azov is a massive war business best comparable with Prigozhin’s former Wagner empire. Yet, he is calling for peace. Go figure.


One needs to play the cards you get. If Trump forces the ceasefire, then Ukrainians have to deal with it, and make the best possible outcome, even if they dont like it.
Saying "oh, its a final blow for us, we are doomed" is also not really good for people morale, so the guy says "its not a catastrophe yet" to calm down people.
Simply playing cards you get from the Fortune, not the ones you would like to have.
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Jan 6 2025 08:16pm
'Dozens' of Ukraine soldiers deserted while training in France

"There have been a certain number of desertions, but they remain very marginal given the volume of people who have undergone training," a French army official told AFP.

"They were in French barracks, they had the right to go out."

According to the French army official, the Ukrainian soldiers who were trained in France were subject to a disciplinary regime "imposed by the Ukrainian command".

"We don't criminalise desertion in France", the official said. (editor's note: "We promote it :D ")

"If someone deserted, a French prosecutor had no authority to arrest that individual. And the right granted to the Ukrainian authorities on French soil is just a disciplinary right."

The French army trained on French territory 2,300 soldiers from a brigade named "Anne of Kyiv" after a Kyiv-born princess who married French King Henri I in the 11th century.

Most of the soldiers were conscripts with no combat experience. They were accompanied by 300 Ukrainian supervisors.

The other 2,200 soldiers in the brigade were trained in Ukraine.

Earlier Monday, Ukraine's land forces commander admitted there were "problems" with the army unit after reports that many of its soldiers had deserted.

The unit was one of several formed last year as Ukraine sought to boost preparations for possible new Russian offensives.

"Yes, there are problems, we are aware of them," Land Forces Commander Mykhailo Drapaty said of the Anne of Kyiv unit, the informal name for the 155th Mechanised Brigade, in сomments to media including AFP.

Prominent Ukrainian journalist Yuriy Butusov wrote in December that 1,700 soldiers had fled the brigade without going into combat, and that 50 had escaped while training in France.

Asked about Butusov's report, Drapaty said: "I will not refute it."

He said "a number of the facts that were presented did take place", while "perhaps not on the scale and scope that was presented".

"I don't really see what could be described as an abuse of power," said the French army official.

"In any case, nothing has come to light about the Ukrainians being stationed in France or what happened during these training sessions."

He insisted that the training had been in line with the Ukrainians' wishes, in terms of "equipment" and "training time".

Source: France24

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250106-dozens-of-ukraine-soldiers-deserted-while-training-in-france
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Jan 7 2025 01:35am
'Dozens' of Ukraine soldiers deserted while training in France

"There have been a certain number of desertions, but they remain very marginal given the volume of people who have undergone training," a French army official told AFP.

"They were in French barracks, they had the right to go out."

According to the French army official, the Ukrainian soldiers who were trained in France were subject to a disciplinary regime "imposed by the Ukrainian command".

"We don't criminalise desertion in France", the official said. (editor's note: "We promote it :D ")

"If someone deserted, a French prosecutor had no authority to arrest that individual. And the right granted to the Ukrainian authorities on French soil is just a disciplinary right."

The French army trained on French territory 2,300 soldiers from a brigade named "Anne of Kyiv" after a Kyiv-born princess who married French King Henri I in the 11th century.

Most of the soldiers were conscripts with no combat experience. They were accompanied by 300 Ukrainian supervisors.

The other 2,200 soldiers in the brigade were trained in Ukraine.

Earlier Monday, Ukraine's land forces commander admitted there were "problems" with the army unit after reports that many of its soldiers had deserted.

The unit was one of several formed last year as Ukraine sought to boost preparations for possible new Russian offensives.

"Yes, there are problems, we are aware of them," Land Forces Commander Mykhailo Drapaty said of the Anne of Kyiv unit, the informal name for the 155th Mechanised Brigade, in сomments to media including AFP.

Prominent Ukrainian journalist Yuriy Butusov wrote in December that 1,700 soldiers had fled the brigade without going into combat, and that 50 had escaped while training in France.

Asked about Butusov's report, Drapaty said: "I will not refute it."

He said "a number of the facts that were presented did take place", while "perhaps not on the scale and scope that was presented".

"I don't really see what could be described as an abuse of power," said the French army official.

"In any case, nothing has come to light about the Ukrainians being stationed in France or what happened during these training sessions."

He insisted that the training had been in line with the Ukrainians' wishes, in terms of "equipment" and "training time".

Source: France24

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250106-dozens-of-ukraine-soldiers-deserted-while-training-in-france


That's what you get when you grab people from the streets, bars and theaters throwing them in vans to be sent to collapsing frontlines where they get hammered non stop without the possibility to be demobilized.

On the bright side it's a good opportunity for all our armchair orc slayers to fill the gaps what are they waiting for ^^
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Jan 7 2025 01:44am
That's what you get when you grab people from the streets, bars and theaters throwing them in vans to be sent to collapsing frontlines where they get hammered non stop without the possibility to be demobilized.

On the bright side it's a good opportunity for all our armchair orc slayers to fill the gaps what are they waiting for ^^


Busification is officially a word of the year in Ukraine, not joking
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Vodka Crisis! Russians are mad at Putin! Kremlin dictator Vladimir Putin (72) takes the "national treasure" way rarely.

Prices on vodka have jumped from €2.5 to €3.

Egregious example of German journalism by Bild :)

This post was edited by Norlander on Jan 7 2025 05:58am
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