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Quote (zorzin @ Dec 16 2024 09:41pm)
I disagree with this. It's a big deal (for me at least) because I view this conflict as a brother war between European countries. As long as the best Koreans stay in Russia, I don't care too much, but the moment a best Korean steps foot on European soil with the aim to kill Europeans, my view towards Russia's strategic operations gets extremely negative.

There's just something about non-Europeans getting mixed up in this that just doesn't sit well with me. I feel (pure speculation on my part) that this sentiment is shared with quite a few people in the West, but who knows?


You are just racist, simply embrace the inner racist in youself 😀 Lots of South Americans ( Colombians), central Asians ( Tajiks and Uzbeks) participate on the Ukrainian side. South Siberians and People from Chukotka ( Chukchi, Buryat, Yakuts) who are Russians btw. look more Asian than the Koreans themselves.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=chukotka+people&t=fpas&iax=images&ia=images

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Quote (zorzin @ Dec 16 2024 12:41pm)
I disagree with this. It's a big deal (for me at least) because I view this conflict as a brother war between European countries. As long as the best Koreans stay in Russia, I don't care too much, but the moment a best Korean steps foot on European soil with the aim to kill Europeans, my view towards Russia's strategic operations gets extremely negative.

There's just something about non-Europeans getting mixed up in this that just doesn't sit well with me. I feel (pure speculation on my part) that this sentiment is shared with quite a few people in the West, but who knows?


Asiatic Hordes

Although I think this is a nothingburger. This isn't 1944 where you have an entire invading army of Asiatic mutts, we have some Korean soldiers who may or may not even be doing stuff, but I understand the sentiment.
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Quote (babun1024 @ Dec 16 2024 03:49pm)
You are just racist, simply embrace the inner racist in youself 😀 Lots of South Americans ( Colombians), central Asians ( Tajiks and Uzbeks) participate on the Ukrainian side. South Siberians and People from Chukotka ( Chukchi, Buryat, Yakuts) who are Russians btw. look more Asian than the Koreans themselves.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=chukotka+people&t=fpas&iax=images&ia=images


How many of those non-europeans participate on the Ukrainian side?

Im well aware of non-European Russians aswell. But afaik Russia prospers off of the western part of Russia.

Do you consider the millions of newly-arrived doctors and engineers to be Europeans?

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Quote (zorzin @ Dec 16 2024 08:41pm)
I disagree with this. It's a big deal (for me at least) because I view this conflict as a brother war between European countries. As long as the best Koreans stay in Russia, I don't care too much, but the moment a best Korean steps foot on European soil with the aim to kill Europeans, my view towards Russia's strategic operations gets extremely negative.

There's just something about non-Europeans getting mixed up in this that just doesn't sit well with me. I feel (pure speculation on my part) that this sentiment is shared with quite a few people in the West, but who knows?


a couple of things:

1. US troops have been confirmed to be in Ukraine (as you should know) so I am construing your comment to mean that its US + European/western aligned countries. I mean look, i get it, but from a neutral standpoint we already have other continents interfering, viewed from the global lens, and not the european lens.
2. Can you clarify you mean Korean troops in europe (Ukraine) or Korean troops in Europe (Poland). I think Korean invasion of Poland = ww3, ditto if the Russians invade. (and to be clear i see neither event occuring).
3. I agree, we viewed Korean troops in the conflict as an escalation. it IS an escalation, albeit not at the same level as long range missiles given to Ukraine. ultimately, if the US and its allies support Ukraine, then its a matter of equivalence, i dont see a problem with china/iran/india/korean providing boots and or bombs. The US opened pandorra's box by financing and contributing to wars abroad.

If we dont like troops from another continent then the US soldiers arming those long range missiles, should not be there either. but the fact is the koreans are in Russia (and ukraine) and the US troops are in Ukraine, while the collective west, including countries not in europe continue to support ukraine, while russia and its allies continue to push into ukraine.

which, to be clear, is mental. its also mental that the US has categorically ruled out negotiating with russia and the world is hoping for a tv gameshow judge (trump) to prevent ww3.

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a couple of things:

1. US troops have been confirmed to be in Ukraine (as you should know) so I am construing your comment to mean that its US + European/western aligned countries. I mean look, i get it, but from a neutral standpoint we already have other continents interfering, viewed from the global lens, and not the european lens.
2. Can you clarify you mean Korean troops in europe (Ukraine) or Korean troops in Europe (Poland). I think Korean invasion of Poland = ww3, ditto if the Russians invade. (and to be clear i see neither event occuring).
3. I agree, we viewed Korean troops in the conflict as an escalation. it IS an escalation, albeit not at the same level as long range missiles given to Ukraine. ultimately, if the US and its allies support Ukraine, then its a matter of equivalence, i dont see a problem with china/iran/india/korean providing boots and or bombs. The US opened pandorra's box by financing and contributing to wars abroad.

If we dont like troops from another continent then the US soldiers arming those long range missiles, should not be there either. but the fact is the koreans are in Russia (and ukraine) and the US troops are in Ukraine, while the collective west, including countries not in europe continue to support ukraine, while russia and its allies continue to push into ukraine.

which, to be clear, is mental. its also mental that the US has categorically ruled out negotiating with russia and the world is hoping for a tv gameshow judge (trump) to prevent ww3.


Koreans in Ukraine hasn't been confirmed. They are mythical beings. Them participating in Kursk is highly likely but that's Russia's territory. Ukraine could also use NATO troops on their territory which is long confirmed they do. There are even passports from Poles/Brits/Uzbeks/Colombians etc. found by Russians.

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Quote (ferdia @ Dec 16 2024 04:28pm)
a couple of things:

1. US troops have been confirmed to be in Ukraine (as you should know) so I am construing your comment to mean that its US + European/western aligned countries. I mean look, i get it, but from a neutral standpoint we already have other continents interfering, viewed from the global lens, and not the european lens.
2. Can you clarify you mean Korean troops in europe (Ukraine) or Korean troops in Europe (Poland). I think Korean invasion of Poland = ww3, ditto if the Russians invade. (and to be clear i see neither event occuring).
3. I agree, we viewed Korean troops in the conflict as an escalation. it IS an escalation, albeit not at the same level as long range missiles given to Ukraine. ultimately, if the US and its allies support Ukraine, then its a matter of equivalence, i dont see a problem with china/iran/india/korean providing boots and or bombs. The US opened pandorra's box by financing and contributing to wars abroad.

If we dont like troops from another continent then the US soldiers arming those long range missiles, should not be there either. but the fact is the koreans are in Russia (and ukraine) and the US troops are in Ukraine, while the collective west, including countries not in europe continue to support ukraine, while russia and its allies continue to push into ukraine.

which, to be clear, is mental. its also mental that the US has categorically ruled out negotiating with russia and the world is hoping for a tv gameshow judge (trump) to prevent ww3.



1. True, but it's only a handful of Americans that are relegated to target acquisition for ATACMS, etc, and radar/early warning systems. The rest are mercs.

2. It's the Koreans in Ukraine that I would find unwelcome.

3. I still don't like either side involving any non-Europeans in this conflict. This isnt a "racist" thing, but more of a "brother war" thing, if you will. There's a difference (imo) between providing arms to a country at war and officially putting boots on the ground.

Im in agreement with most users in this topic that are pro-Russian about most things, but this is one issue where I felt I had to nitpick, just to balance things out. The below link is claiming that the best koreans are fighting in kursk, and as long as they dont cross over into Ukrainian territory, i have no problem with Russias tactics

Ukraine says North Koreans took heavy casualties during weekend attack in Kursk region
https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/16/europe/north-koreans-kursk-losses-intl/index.html


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Quote (zorzin @ Dec 16 2024 11:14pm)
1. True, but it's only a handful of Americans that are relegated to target acquisition for ATACMS, etc, and radar/early warning systems. The rest are mercs.

2. It's the Koreans in Ukraine that I would find unwelcome.

3. I still don't like either side involving any non-Europeans in this conflict. This isnt a "racist" thing, but more of a "brother war" thing, if you will. There's a difference (imo) between providing arms to a country at war and officially putting boots on the ground.

Im in agreement with most users in this topic that are pro-Russian about most things, but this is one issue where I felt I had to nitpick, just to balance things out. The below link is claiming that the best koreans are fighting in kursk, and as long as they dont cross over into Ukrainian territory, i have no problem with Russias tactics

Ukraine says North Koreans took heavy casualties during weekend attack in Kursk region
https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/16/europe/north-koreans-kursk-losses-intl/index.html


One of the scariest things about modern warfare is that the capabilities of the advances countries are such that they only need a few ppl to do maximal return on investment. i mean who would you prefer, us soldiers with long range missiles, or north korean tropps? ill take those long range missiles all day long.
and we are not pro-russian, we are just anti-ww3. to reiterate, there is no appeal for eastern european countries to gravitate towards russia (except in order to prevent a ukraine 2.0).

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1,028 days of Putins 3 day special military totally not a war operation.

Russia's security assistance to Armenia, worthless. Russia's expensive propping up of Assad and Syrian regime, worthless. Iran, Russia's key military partner obliterated by Israel.
North Korean troops fighting to take back the ground that the Soviets turned the Third Reich back in the legendary Battle of Kursk.

All the ingredients for a grade A clusterfuck courtesy of Vlad and Gerry.

Aside from the empty cheers at costly gains in the Donbass, you can hear a fucking pin drop in here.
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Dec 18 2024 03:42pm)
1,028 days of Putins 3 day special military totally not a war operation.

Russia's security assistance to Armenia, worthless. Russia's expensive propping up of Assad and Syrian regime, worthless. Iran, Russia's key military partner obliterated by Israel.
North Korean troops fighting to take back the ground that the Soviets turned the Third Reich back in the legendary Battle of Kursk.

All the ingredients for a grade A clusterfuck courtesy of Vlad and Gerry.

Aside from the empty cheers at costly gains in the Donbass, you can hear a fucking pin drop in here.



Did you notice that your great testing ground has completely gone to shit? Better send more storm shadows and challengers or do you have no more?

It's quiet here because all NATO enthusiasts have left / got banned / are under warning, and normal civilized debate is now the norm here.


Now you show up again after your latest ban applauding Ukraine's latest terrorist strike in Moscow and since no one responded to your provocation you doubled down with this post.

We've seen it all before, I hope mods are paying attention
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