This thread is 4600 pages long, searching it is not practical. I can't remember anyone posting a source for your claim in this thread, nor did a google search turn anything to the tune of Zelensky coming to power "at gunpoint".
It was not my intention to to discredit your entire post; I took offense to the bolded claim because I believe it to be untrue.



Nord Stream 2 never went into operation, Nord Stream 1 was already shut down because the Russians had stopped their gas supplies about 6 weeks before the pipelines were blown up.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Dec 3 2024 02:23pm

This. Of course it was always foolish to suggest that Ukraine could defeat Russia's military in a years-long, protracted war of attrition. But to be honest, I can't remember anyone ever making this claim. The two types of claims which were made were 1) that Ukraine might be able to chase away the Russian troops from its territory (sans Crimea) if the NATO countries threw their full weight behind these efforts, went all-out with arms supplies etc., and 2) that Ukraine has a chance to hold Russia off at current lines with sufficient, but more modest support.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Dec 3 2024 02:26pm

Ben Hodges was quite popular for a while.



This post was edited by ferdia on Dec 3 2024 02:35pm

You got it mixed up.
AI is as good as data that was used to feed it.
If AI gets fed with Russian propaganda, then it will spread it.
Hovewer when we talk about chatgpt, Microsoft partnered AI, we can be nearly 100% sure it was trained with correct, scientific and factual data, not with autocratic propaganda.

This post was edited by Ironfister on Dec 3 2024 03:10pm

Sure mate, there is no war in Ba Zing se.

ChatGPT does not consistently understand Math. ChatGPT also has been fed positions / narratives. it is still a very very powerful tool, you just have to know its limitations, and once you know this it is simply amazing (as a tool / aid).

The limitations are pretty obvious: current AI models still haven't overcome the "garbage in - garbage out"-problem. They still can't tell apart good from bad information, sound logical arguments from flawed ones. They are AMAZING at distilling information from large volumes of good-quality data and text, or teasing out swarm intelligence where it exists. They are completely in over their non-existent head, however, in situations where the conventional wisdom is off.

That’s not how any of this works, I hate to break it to you.

Flick back through the topic to before Ukraine launched their 2023 counteroffensive and read what our pro NATO and pro testing ground residents posted.

The Russians were out of everything their economy collapsing and Ukraine was going to kick the orcs out of Ukraine including Crimea.

If you reminded them Russia simply had more of everything from resources to manpower you were called a pro Kremlin puppet and asked if you'd made enough posts yet to collect your washing machine.

We’ve been over this so many times in this thread with facts, links, documents, laying out timelines and effects. You spend time laying it out and people just dodge and disappear for a week. Some even completely bailed instead of admitting they were wrong. Nobody ever reflects on anything. Not in here in PARD and not in real world. It’s difficult to admit the world around you is not what it seems.

We repeat the same mistakes over and over and over and over again as human collective. Average history knowledge of an average NPC around you goes back to the last news cycle at worst, last election cycle at best.

No cause and effects analysis, no attempt to critically think or reconcile. Label everything “terrorist sympathizer”, “communist”, “fascist”, “Putins bootlicker” and move along about your day. We see it here too often.

It is all so tiresome.