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Dec 3 2024 03:49am
Quote (Ironfister @ Dec 2 2024 04:39pm)
until recent Russian victories many Ukrainians thought that they can win the war, and there was a big support to keep fighting in Ukraine.
Unfortunately while Russia economy is in serious trouble, it still didnt collapse fully yet.
So Ukrainians need a plan "B" now.
If all goes wrong, if Trump doesnt make a permanent peace but only a temporary cease fire, then I would advise Ukrainians to flee west when they get the chance.
Its bad to give their land to Russia, but saving lives is important too.


I feel that at this point whatever the outcome is in Ukraine, if NATO is off the table, it could be considered temporary. The people would have to believe that any agreement is permanent which is a hard sell without Russia agreeing to allow places like the UK to bolster the border
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Dec 3 2024 07:02am
Zelenskyy interview.

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Dec 3 2024 08:13am
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Zelenskyy interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ_5ynKyB4E


Gave up 2 mins…I can’t listen to this fucknut speak English…it just hurts my ears
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Dec 3 2024 08:29am
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Gave up 2 mins…I can’t listen to this fucknut speak English…it just hurts my ears


Get ready for 3 hours of it with Lex Friedman.

He is going to make a point of not speaking Russian to Lex IMO.
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Dec 3 2024 08:33am
Quote (Malopox @ Dec 3 2024 09:29am)
Get ready for 3 hours of it with Lex Friedman.

He is going to make a point of not speaking Russian to Lex IMO.


Lmao

I'm debating listening to it, but i don't think i can stomach 3 hours of rehashing the same things. You know it will be the same old, why Ukraine needs to keep fighting, why the west needs to continue to throw money, NATO membership, etc.
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Dec 3 2024 11:05am
"Imperial Narrative"
"He is an animal, a real animal, without those human values that we share"
"He is attacking...with new kinds of missiles"
"Hitler's idea...he uses the same steps...narratives"

His language is still not political, and he is not fluent in english. I didnt clearly understand what he was saying re: Germany talking to Russia, but the impression I got was that his view was that Ukraine and its allies need to be strong, firm and of one voice.

Overall it was a good interview, noting he is open to an end to the war, which is an improvement on the no negotiating, keep fighting until we are all dead narrative.
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Dec 3 2024 11:20am
Quote (Malopox @ Dec 3 2024 09:29am)
Get ready for 3 hours of it with Lex Friedman.

He is going to make a point of not speaking Russian to Lex IMO.


Which is native language…I’m sure his Ukrainian probably hurts the ears for the native Ukrainian speakers as well. He’s just a fucking poser lol. Sorry for lack of a better word.

The stress of his words, the intonation, the British accent he tries to add in there but can’t hold it past the first 3 words of each sentence- it’s all just horrible, I didn’t get past 2 mins.

I have a western Ukrainian guy I used to work with- fully fluent in Russian and also speaks English (we live/work in NY)…moment the war started, he started speaking to me only in Ukrainian, also knowing that I’m 100% Russian. I could care less- we’re in construction, I still was able to make everything out. My moms friend, who celebrated every orthodox holiday became a catholic when the war started….so many “special” people out there.

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Dec 3 2024 11:21am
Quote (ferdia @ Dec 3 2024 12:05pm)
"Imperial Narrative"
"He is an animal, a real animal, without those human values that we share"
"He is attacking...with new kinds of missiles"
"Hitler's idea...he uses the same steps...narratives"

His language is still not political, and he is not fluent in english. I didnt clearly understand what he was saying re: Germany talking to Russia, but the impression I got was that his view was that Ukraine and its allies need to be strong, firm and of one voice.

Overall it was a good interview, noting he is open to an end to the war, which is an improvement on the no negotiating, keep fighting until we are all dead narrative.


Yea…he doesn’t understand half the words he’s using and he’s using preset phrases…this guy is lost in the sauce and if he doesn’t shape up and come to the table….he will get replaced pretty swiftly I think.
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Dec 3 2024 12:17pm
Yes, its Ukraine related



Comedy Gold.

This post was edited by ferdia on Dec 3 2024 12:20pm
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Dec 3 2024 01:14pm
Quote (Malopox @ 3 Dec 2024 09:54)
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Zelensky technically was even recognized by Russia and met Putin before the war on several occasions.


Typical Russia, one day you are recognized by Russia and drink tea with mr Putin, while the next year Putin asks you to give part of your country and kill you if you dont.
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