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Jul 15 2021 10:56am
Quote (Cannabist @ 15 Jul 2021 16:40)
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Seems a lot of PaRD regulars need a refresher.


this seniorita mod changed in name into "LUL" i guess there's a very secret meaning behind this.
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Jul 15 2021 11:06am
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I don't respect you or Duck though. You haven't earned it.


Your estimation of what's earned is irrelevant. Meaningful debate only happens when the participants respect each other, even if only enough to observe proper decorum. If you or anyone else is unwilling to meet the most basic level of respect then why are you posting in a forum devoted to Political and Religious Debate?
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Jul 15 2021 11:09am
Quote (Cannabist @ Jul 15 2021 12:06pm)
Your estimation of what's earned is irrelevant. Meaningful debate only happens when the participants respect each other, even if only enough to observe proper decorum. If you or anyone else is unwilling to meet the most basic level of respect then why are you posting in a forum devoted to Political and Religious Debate?


you're doing that thing again where you defend the rules of civilized debate where the context is a person who doesn't respect it at all (Duckling).

there's a very good reason that posters like me or NAW will post paragraph long responses with well sourced info to some users and shitpost calling an idiot a mall cop in back to back posts.

some users have a documented history of not only acting in good faith but also responding in earnest and detail when you ask them questions.

Duck comes into threads just to post shit like "typical leftie scum antifa lovers, cowards pussies lol i'd beat them up in a fight", then if u ask him to engage he calls u a pussy and shit posts a few times more before doing his rounds to Cinnabon and back.
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Jul 15 2021 11:15am
Quote (Cannabist @ Jul 15 2021 12:06pm)
Your estimation of what's earned is irrelevant. Meaningful debate only happens when the participants respect each other, even if only enough to observe proper decorum. If you or anyone else is unwilling to meet the most basic level of respect then why are you posting in a forum devoted to Political and Religious Debate?


I regularly have good and respectful discussions with dozens of users.

There's a whole spectrum of respect from near total with snipa, skinned, tcock, moderate with black, and absolutely zero with Bogie void Cam yourself and duck.

Even so, I regularly give those I have no respect for opportunities to engage honestly and earn some back.

I owe you nothing you haven't earned, and that includes respect.

My respect for somebody is mostly premised on how honest they are. Void and Bogie have actively lied to my face and others multiple times so I doubt they'll ever earn the respect of most users back. You could still make a turnaround though

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Jul 15 2021 11:16am
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you're doing that thing again where you defend the rules of civilized debate where the context is a person who doesn't respect it at all (Duckling).

there's a very good reason that posters like me or NAW will post paragraph long responses with well sourced info to some users and shitpost calling an idiot a mall cop in back to back posts.

some users have a documented history of not only acting in good faith but also responding in earnest and detail when you ask them questions.

Duck comes into threads just to post shit like "typical leftie scum antifa lovers, cowards pussies lol i'd beat them up in a fight", then if u ask him to engage he calls u a pussy and shit posts a few times more before doing his rounds to Cinnabon and back.


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I regularly have good and respectful discussions with dozens of users.

There's a whole spectrum of respect from near total with snipa, skinned, tcock, moderate with black, and absolutely zero with Bogie void Cam yourself and duck.

Even so, I regularly give those I have no respect for opportunities to engage honestly and earn some back.

I owe you nothing you haven't earned, and that includes respect.


You're justifying your actions through other people's actions. Hardly seems right.
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Jul 15 2021 11:17am
Quote (Cannabist @ Jul 15 2021 01:16pm)
You're justifying your actions through other people's actions. Hardly seems right.


Gotta know the players, newbie.
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Jul 15 2021 11:18am
Quote (Cannabist @ Jul 15 2021 12:16pm)
You're justifying your actions through other people's actions. Hardly seems right.


I couldn't care less if you see my actions as just or unjust. Im under no obligation to make this a safe space or to debate with people who are dishonest.
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Jul 15 2021 11:19am
Quote (Cannabist @ Jul 15 2021 12:16pm)
You're justifying your actions through other people's actions. Hardly seems right.


so it's incumbent on me to treat all people at all time as if they want to honestly debate me? even if i have hundreds of examples of them not wanting to and zero examples of them being honest?

you're now quadrupling down to defend someone you're saying you're not defending, acting ironically while claiming i dont know what irony is, then changing that to it is irony but circular logic, then not responding when i show it's not circular and you got confused, then posting rules that arent enforced.

has this been an "honest debate"? or have you just failed to police the behavior of others while providing nothing of substance for 2 pages while also claiming and then dropping and the running from your own posts? geee i wonder.
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Jul 15 2021 11:39am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jul 15 2021 12:18pm)
I couldn't care less if you see my actions as just or unjust. Im under no obligation to make this a safe space or to debate with people who are dishonest.


Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 15 2021 12:19pm)
so it's incumbent on me to treat all people at all time as if they want to honestly debate me? even if i have hundreds of examples of them not wanting to and zero examples of them being honest?

you're now quadrupling down to defend someone you're saying you're not defending, acting ironically while claiming i dont know what irony is, then changing that to it is irony but circular logic, then not responding when i show it's not circular and you got confused, then posting rules that arent enforced.

has this been an "honest debate"? or have you just failed to police the behavior of others while providing nothing of substance for 2 pages while also claiming and then dropping and the running from your own posts? geee i wonder.


Do you actually want the world to be a better place or do you just want to feel like you're right and they're wrong?
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Jul 15 2021 11:41am
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Do you actually want the world to be a better place or do you just want to feel like you're right and they're wrong?


Do you think we're going to make the world a better or worse place here?

I don't have such delusions of grandeur.

We're random people discussing politics on a forum for our own gratification. Nothing more.
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