Does anyone here who knows what's going on actually believe that WW3 will be started by the current administration? That's what the media is buzzing about but I'm betting it's just clickbait.

The current administration just ordered a massive provocation, during their lame duck session.

Well if missiles hits Moscow. Expect a tactical nuke to be used.

Nuke where? Ukraine?

This post was edited by tugofpeace on Nov 24 2024 10:46pm

Probably.

Is the reason for fear of nuclear attack not due to any single nuke, but due to using multiple nukes in retaliation? Because a single nuke anywhere isn't enough to wipe out the planet, the radiation isn't even enough.

Modern simulation says that singular nuke is not going to end the world. Nuclear retaliation (MAD) will. Mostly due to burning cities emitting radioactive ash and covering the skies for years. Those that do not die right away, whittle away during the subsequent years due to crop failure and lack of sun.

Fun fact: l Hiroshima / Nagasaki nukes raised all radiation levels everywhere on earth around the globe slightly so scientists are paying mad money for pre ww2 metal sunken ships to recycle non-radioactive steel for their highly precise equipment.

Some countries have ever adopted policies of "overwhelming force" (disproportionate responses) while others tend to adopt policies of tit for tat (proportionate response). When one looks to the causes of current conflicts there is usually a common driver (the US). When this driver has a track record of disproportionate responses and is wholly lacking in will to maintain the current status quo, we have to expect that there will, going forward, ever be more and more flashpoints that may cause a mistake to occur.

The more opportunities for mistakes to occur, the more dangerous the situation. To my mind, knowing that Trump wanted peace, Biden should not have escalated with long range missiles (opportunity for mistake, this should never have been done). And yet, here we are. the western narrative on the street may be "lets give Ukraine nukes to defend themselves" and we see the west simply not care about Russian interests in this matter, on the basis "if russia behaved then it has nothing to fear". It is this uninformed and uneducated logic that may lead to a nuclear war.

If Russia were to drop a nuke, there is a real risk that the US will drop 10, noting it does not subscribe to tit for tat, rather overwhelming force. and the Russian response to receiving 10 nukes would undoubtedly be to send everything to the US (and europe)

Mistakes the west has made recently:

1. Overthrowing democratically elected governments.
2. US involvement in the US-Israel genocide of Palestinians.
3. Destabilization regions.
4. Weaponizing the Dollar.
5. conflict.
6. Imposing Sanctions without understanding consequences.
7. no diplomacy, no negotiation, no respect.

Drivers such as these lead us to Destinations most people don't want to visit. One has to expect that if you drive in the direction of a storm people are going to die.

This post was edited by ferdia on Nov 25 2024 03:13am

Discussions over sending French and British troops to Ukraine reignited
With the prospect of American disengagement from Kyiv following Donald Trump's return to the White House, Paris and London are not ruling out leading a military coalition in Ukraine.
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/11/25/discussions-over-sending-french-and-british-troops-to-ukraine-reignited_6734041_4.html