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Quote (Norlander @ Nov 22 2024 01:42pm)


I mean if you play into a narrative, well, even if you dont, its a great image. well done to the artist! this has connotations of Middle Earth and Morder, Sauron and ofc, Valar (US) in the West who will come and save the day? maybe? maybe ?!?

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Quote (zorzin @ Nov 22 2024 07:16am)
Ya, I can agree with this. The Russians were, at the time, wholly unaware of how drone warfare would make the majority of their Soviet-era stockpiles practically obsolete. The Russians have taken massive losses with their tanks, IFVs and APCs, which makes manoeuvre warfare a grind and then some. Another big factor is Russia still not being able to create air superiority over Ukraine due to a lack of sophisticated asea radars on their birds, so they can't do SEAD missions and knock out Ukrainian AA. These are the two biggest factors that have halted the overall Russian progress.

Russia is quickly starting to gain air superiority and a complete edge in drone warfare, and their land gains are ever increasing, so unless the west starts supplying the Ukrainians with more toys, I don't see a way for them not to buckle under the Russian war machine. Also, never compare European warfare to desert warfare.


Hopefully they won’t supply Ukraine any more but Russia’s technological advancements are for not if their soldiers can’t functionally operate them in a combat situation.

That’s the major advantage the west has. Hardened military with both conventional and non conventional warfare experience. The next world war ends one of two ways.

1. Complete destruction via nukes.

2. The West absolutely embarrassing China, Russia, NK and Iran.

Mark my words the very first thing the west does is stretch Russia and China so they can’t help Iran or NK while they cut the head off those two snakes sending them into a 20 year Afghanistan/Iraq style chaotic spiral.

After that China and Russia will have way too many fronts to deal with. That’s the problem being a large country directly land connected to people that despise you.

There will be a lot of loss on both sides but the west will simply be more brutal and care less about their actions.

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Hopefully they won’t supply Ukraine any more but Russia’s technological advancements are for not if their soldiers can’t functionally operate them in a combat situation.

That’s the major advantage the west has. Hardened military with both conventional and non conventional warfare experience. The next world war ends one of two ways.

1. Complete destruction via nukes.

2. The West absolutely embarrassing China, Russia, NK and Iran.

Mark my words the very first thing the west does is stretch Russia and China so they can’t help Iran or NK while they cut the head off those two snakes sending them into a 20 year Afghanistan/Iraq style chaotic spiral.

After that China and Russia will have way too many fronts to deal with. That’s the problem being a large country directly land connected to people that despise you.

There will be a lot of loss on both sides but the west will simply be more brutal and care less about their actions.


The Chinese and Russians drop 10 Nukes in Israel but not on the capital cities or the developed cities and AIPAC will take care of USA and make sure peace is being negotiated.
:lol:

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Quote (Malopox @ Nov 22 2024 11:20am)
You seem to know a lot. What do you suggest Russia should do?


Leave Ukraine and accept that they are sovereign nation that can decide for themselves. Like, why is that even a question?


Quote (Djunior @ Nov 22 2024 11:51am)
Ukraine is so desperate that THEY are now drafting from prisons, Russia had Wagner recruiting from prisons to fill that gap but as you said yourself the Russians are now filling their ranks with volunteers that sign up because the pay is good.

Ukraine is using press gangs that roam the streets and they're dealing with mass desertion, even Western MSM like DW can no longer deny it. This is a recent video ;)

BTW North Korea delivered how many million artillery shells to Russia? Compare that to the amount that the EU delivered. I'll wail, lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qN0bgVsEX4


So who made Wagner group, and why had he named it that? Have you seen his tattoos?

yeah Ukrainian military forcefully conscripting people is unfortunate and looks really bad. If only russia stopped attacking it could end today

According to some quick google, about 10m shells from NK? Why, is russia that desperate they can't produce weapons themselves? Do you think those famously high quality north korean missiles are worth more than https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_aid_to_Ukraine_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War ?
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The Chinese and Russians drop 10 Nukes in Israel but not on the capital cities or the developed cities and AIPAC will take care of USA and make sure peace is being negotiated.
:lol:


You can’t do that. Israel isn’t that big. You drop 10 tactical nukes even the aftermath will kill the whole country lol.
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Quote (MadMan87 @ Nov 22 2024 07:01am)
Hopefully they won’t supply Ukraine any more but Russia’s technological advancements are for not if their soldiers can’t functionally operate them in a combat situation.

That’s the major advantage the west has. Hardened military with both conventional and non conventional warfare experience. The next world war ends one of two ways.

1. Complete destruction via nukes.

2. The West absolutely embarrassing China, Russia, NK and Iran.

Mark my words the very first thing the west does is stretch Russia and China so they can’t help Iran or NK while they cut the head off those two snakes sending them into a 20 year Afghanistan/Iraq style chaotic spiral.

After that China and Russia will have way too many fronts to deal with. That’s the problem being a large country directly land connected to people that despise you.

There will be a lot of loss on both sides but the west will simply be more brutal and care less about their actions.


The 'superior' Western Host has tried not once but two times already to invade Russia and failed spectacularly both times.

Napoleon's host was the finest army the world had ever seen - he had asserted control over all of Europe, had superior technology and military doctrine, had absorbed troops from the European nations, and so invading those backwards Russkies would be easy right? Well, no.. the entire army was destroyed.

Hitler's host was the most technologically advanced, largest host again that the world had ever seen. Superior tanks, weaponry, military doctrine, air power. He had conquered Europe and absorbed troops from the European nations to bolster the host. He thought invading those dirty old inferior Russkies would be easy.. turned out, his whole army was also destroyed there.

What's the common denominator here? Hubris. The same hubris held by western Europeans today. They need to stop smelling their own farts and acknowledge reality. Russia is a really big, cold country filled with hardened & highly intelligent men, where crushing invading Western armies is part of their national identity. Many times the West has foolishly underestimated Russia and many times they've been destroyed. Two entire generations of the finest Germanic men nearly completely wiped out due to unhinged anti-Russian bloodlust by pampered elites. Awesome deal we got there.

Russia has committed a meager fraction of its military power to this conflict. They could squash Ukraine like a bug with conventional missiles anytime they want - they won't do that because they aren't trying to escalate - the West is. It's all so tiresome
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Quote (El1te @ Nov 22 2024 10:15am)
The 'superior' Western Host has tried not once but two times already to invade Russia and failed spectacularly both times.

Napoleon's host was the finest army the world had ever seen - he had asserted control over all of Europe, had superior technology and military doctrine, had absorbed troops from the European nations, and so invading those backwards Russkies would be easy right? Well, no.. the entire army was destroyed.

Hitler's host was the most technologically advanced, largest host again that the world had ever seen. Superior tanks, weaponry, military doctrine, air power. He had conquered Europe and absorbed troops from the European nations to bolster the host. He thought invading those dirty old inferior Russkies would be easy.. turned out, his whole army was also destroyed there.

What's the common denominator here? Hubris. The same hubris held by western Europeans today. They need to stop smelling their own farts and acknowledge reality. Russia is a really big, cold country filled with hardened & highly intelligent men, where crushing invading Western armies is part of their national identity. Many times the West has foolishly underestimated Russia and many times they've been destroyed. Two entire generations of the finest Germanic men nearly completely wiped out due to unhinged anti-Russian bloodlust by pampered elites. Awesome deal we got there.

Russia has committed a meager fraction of its military power to this conflict. They could squash Ukraine like a bug with conventional missiles anytime they want - they won't do that because they aren't trying to escalate - the West is. It's all so tiresome


Russia has NEVER conventionally faced the US. Which, let’s be honest is 90% of the west’s might. The only time they even escalated against the US the USSR collapsed financially. The same way they will again one day. Russia has too much territory that isn’t worth what they cost to keep.


Let’s be clear… Russia and the US will collapse from within.

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Russia has NEVER conventionally faced the US. Which, let’s be honest is 90% of the west’s might. The only time they even escalated against the US the USSR collapsed financially. The same way they will again one day. Russia has too much territory that isn’t worth what they cost to keep.


Let’s be clear… Russia and the US will collapse from within.


US is in the midst of a peaceful regime change, a new regime with new foreign policy that doesn't involve unhinged anti-Russian bloodlust. Really all of this was propped up by dirty old boomers still living in the Cold War. They're dying off and being purged from government. US also has no interest in assembling a host to go for Moscow.

Western Europe is weaker than Russia and they know this, which is why they're so hysterical. They fear Russia coming and taking them all over because 1) they have a guilty conscience, and know that Russia would be justified in doing so and 2) they are pathetic and weak and they know it! Leeching off of the American taxpayer is now entrenched as a part of European culture
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Quote (El1te @ Nov 22 2024 10:32am)
US is in the midst of a peaceful regime change, a new regime with new foreign policy that doesn't involve unhinged anti-Russian bloodlust. Really all of this was propped up by dirty old boomers still living in the Cold War. They're dying off and being purged from government. US also has no interest in assembling a host to go for Moscow.

Western Europe is weaker than Russia and they know this, which is why they're so hysterical. They fear Russia coming and taking them all over because 1) they have a guilty conscience, and know that Russia would be justified in doing so and 2) they are pathetic and weak and they know it! Leeching off of the American taxpayer is now entrenched as a part of European culture


I agree with most of this. Americans aren’t interested. But the majority would be if they attacked a NATO country.

Honestly. I always thought it weird that the US didn’t get along with Russia. They have a lot of things in common culturally.

I do think Europe tends to leech off Americans militarily.

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