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Quote (doomchaser @ Nov 21 2024 03:22pm)
The communist ideology is not that bad it usually just the leaders that make it bad.. Pretty sure capitalism ideology is based on slavery compared to communism.. Capitalism never has the working class as top priority But the 1% corporations,, could work well but for the leaders also .. Socialism is somewhere in-between the 2 or could be..


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He still probably thinks Russians are communists :lol:
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Quote (doomchaser @ 22 Nov 2024 07:22)
The communist ideology is not that bad it usually just the leaders that make it bad.. Pretty sure capitalism ideology is based on slavery compared to communism.. Capitalism never has the working class as top priority But the 1% corporations,, could work well but for the leaders also .. Socialism is somewhere in-between the 2 or could be..


I think it is safer to say China is communist since their party name is Communist. But even then I rofl at China's communist state when you go to Tier 1 and Tier 2 Cities and see tons of Ferraris and Lamborginis.

Even the middle class are driving BMWs and Benz and the middle lower are driving Toyotas, Subarus and Hondas.

The poorer cities are buying and driving their locally produced BYD electric cars and it aint bad. :rofl:
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I think it is safer to say China is communist since their party name is Communist. But even then I rofl at China's communist state when you go to Tier 1 and Tier 2 Cities and see tons of Ferraris and Lamborginis.

Even the middle class are driving BMWs and Benz and the middle lower are driving Toyotas, Subarus and Hondas.

The poorer cities are buying and driving their locally produced BYD electric cars and it aint bad. :rofl:


China hasn't been communist since Deng right?

I think the Chinese understanding of the word 'communist' is wildly divergent from Westerners
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Nov 21 2024 06:23pm
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China hasn't been communist since Deng right?

I think the Chinese understanding of the word 'communist' is wildly divergent from Westerners


We are not taught the Ideology of communism We are told to fear it is all lol
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China hasn't been communist since Deng right?

I think the Chinese understanding of the word 'communist' is wildly divergent from Westerners


Yup since Deng, they went capitalist like USA but slightly different.

The communist party is in name just to keep power and control.

IF CCP split in two and have elections it will just be like America. :rofl: but a bunch of old farts and elite controlling at the back end.

Imagine 4 years of Xi jinping and you have 4 years of Hu Jintao. But the bugger at the back is Deng and friends.
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Quote (doomchaser @ Nov 21 2024 04:23pm)
We are not taught the Ideology of communism We are told to fear it is all lol


And why aren't we taught it? We're taught instead to hate 'fascism' and nothing about communism. That's why we have a massive communist problem here.
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Nov 21 2024 04:24pm)
Yup since Deng, they went capitalist like USA but slightly different.

The communist party is in name just to keep power and control.

IF CCP split in two and have elections it will just be like America. :rofl: but a bunch of old farts and elite controlling at the back end.

Imagine 4 years of Xi jinping and you have 4 years of Hu Jintao. But the bugger at the back is Deng and friends.


It's interesting, they kept the 1 party totalitarian state aspect of communism, but abandoned the retarded aspects and switched to market capitalism.

Doesn't that make them pretty indistinguishable from, say, the German Reich? 1 party totalitarian state, with a statist market economy where the government has the power to intervene when it feels necessary.
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It's interesting, they kept the 1 party totalitarian state aspect of communism, but abandoned the retarded aspects and switched to market capitalism.

Doesn't that make them pretty indistinguishable from, say, the German Reich? 1 party totalitarian state, with a statist market economy where the government has the power to intervene when it feels necessary.


You are exactly right. But without the Nazi element since they don't hate on any particular race apart from the East Turkestan independence movement which is basically buddy buddy with the guys in the pic shown below.

USA took it off the terror list because now it fit's their agenda. And all these movements as you know are propped up by Uncle Sam to fight for Human rights and freedom. :rofl:


Oh by the way they are Ethnic Turks which is the reason why Edrogan has been QQing about China's treatment on them and the West applauded Edrogan's bravery. The next time someone says the Muslim world doesn't criticize China for their treatment of Muslims.
You know it is a bullshit smear statement. Because it is not a Muslim issue, it is an ethnic issue. The Chinese do not have problems with the Hui Muslims.




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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Nov 21 2024 04:35pm)
You are exactly right. But without the Nazi element since they don't hate on any particular race apart from the East Turkestan independence movement which is basically buddy buddy with the guys in the pic shown below.

USA took it off the terror list because now it fit's their agenda. And all these movements as you know are propped up by Uncle Sam to fight for Human rights and freedom. :rofl:


https://i.imgur.com/cUVZdWVl.jpg


That's a good point. A defining aspect of the German regime was it's extreme focus on racialism.

It's interesting to note that Britain and then later America were effective one party states for hundreds of years, where their respective greatness was built. The two party system is a relic from Britain where it was essentially Protestant conservatives vs. Slightly different Protestant conservatives. The entire notion of 'religious freedom' in America was with respect to the freedom of various Protestant denominations - a strike against the hegemony of the degenerate Anglican church. It was never even a thought that, say, Muslims could ever reside in the US and hold political power. The migration of Catholics to America also caused an entire mess of ethnoreligious conflict.
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