Quote (Goomshill @ Nov 22 2024 12:35am)
When it comes to the point about who is firing the missiles-
Putin is directly calling out NATO for having NATO personnel launching NATO weapons, publicly declaring that US/UK operatives are the ones launching missiles killing Russians in Russia. Its long been understood as an open secret that US agents are in Ukraine, either as active duty special forces or contractors or somehow deniable as 'military advisors', which is the most we've acknowledged. The leaked documents last year showed what was it, 200-300 in the country? We don't deny it, but we don't acknowledge that Americans are the ones pulling the trigger when we shoot at Russia. By far the most rational explanation is that US operatives have direct control of the advanced long range missiles stationed deeper into Ukraine like Dnipro, Kyiv, etc- perhaps also their AA- but aren't on the front lines (besides mercenaries outside of government control).
This also begs whether its supposed to be a better argument for NATO forces having direct control over the long range missiles, or whether we pretend that we've handed such weapons to an unstable and desperate regime that could use them 'in ways we don't approve' and provoke a wider war, or that if Ukraine falls these weapons would wind up on the black market. Does anyone really pretend the latter is a better case? But the argument is also moot. The fact is Russia is acting as if NATO fingers are pressing the red button. Putin understands NATO to be directly attacking him- the first such attack by a nuclear power on another nuclear power since WW2- and Putin is almost certainly right. America could deny it, random twitter/reddit/etc users could pretend otherwise, but it doesn't change the geopolitical calculus.
We've got less than two months until Trump is sworn in and we're racing right up to the cliff. Even if the odds of an actual WW3 or nuclear exchange are minimal, any chance of armageddon is intolerable. How would you quantify it, 1% or less chance? Of getting billions killed? If I had a 100 chamber revolver I wouldn't play Russian roulette with it and that's one life. But how about the odds that the escalations continue until at least Russia conducts another public nuclear test to make a point. That's way higher than a 1% chance.
I think Russia will have to do what the US did with Hiroshima and Nagasaki. No other language is understood by neocons.