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Nov 21 2024 08:29am
Quote (nuvo @ Nov 21 2024 06:01am)
Gave myself few days rest, came back and i am still baffled how this topic is full of russian apologetics and people still claiming russia is the victim here, or that "putin is wise to not take the bait" and some kind of blaming the west.

Guyse, it is very simple. russia attacked Ukraine, again after 2014, and after attacking Afghanistan, Georgia, Moldova, Chechnya and few more I probably forgot. Imperialistic army murdering and raping people. And you claim its Ukraine's fault. Mind blown at this logic.

Also, lets flip the script: russia shouldn't bark at NATO borders and threaten nuclear war, when their population density is like that

https://i.imgur.com/5HUZ6Kw.png


What are you saying ? Russia was baited and provoked to attack Ukraine? yes I agree ... There was a alternative to the attack .. and plenty of time for Ukraine to meet that alternative ... Ukraine said no They will keep arming Azov military nazi's.. Keep placing more anti Russian policies to their population of Russians .. and more..Who is apologetic ? you see no logic in the reasons for this war that we provoked? Just a mad man Putin invading for no reason? Well some of us look at both sides rather then just 1 side ..
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Quote (babun1024 @ Nov 21 2024 09:20am)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-K5eX11nTw
The impact from different angle by another surveillance camera.

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Get to the Apotheke and buy some iodid pills :lol:
You might get what you were asking for.


coming down through the clouds like that... dam son. =(
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Quote (C4NTWO @ Nov 21 2024 03:52pm)
coming down through the clouds like that... dam son. =(



Each of them had 6 payloads. 6x6 = 36 possible nuclear warheads. One of them is enough to completely level a huge city. And they all hit within 150m range. Talk about accuracy..

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Quote (nuvo @ Nov 21 2024 09:01pm)
Gave myself few days rest, came back and i am still baffled how this topic is full of russian apologetics and people still claiming russia is the victim here, or that "putin is wise to not take the bait" and some kind of blaming the west.

Guyse, it is very simple. russia attacked Ukraine, again after 2014, and after attacking Afghanistan, Georgia, Moldova, Chechnya and few more I probably forgot. Imperialistic army murdering and raping people. And you claim its Ukraine's fault. Mind blown at this logic.

Also, lets flip the script: russia shouldn't bark at NATO borders and threaten nuclear war, when their population density is like that

https://i.imgur.com/5HUZ6Kw.png




It's indeed very simple. This is about the West trying to pull Ukraine into their sphere of influence and Russia reacting to that.

If you didn't want this war then you shouldn't have messed with Ukraine.

Stop spewing Western propaganda lines, you're screaming and screeching in vain because by now we all know the West has been involved in Ukraine for decades.

BTW Chechnya was a domestic conflict, talking about Afghanistan is funny after the West occupied the country for 2 decades and Georgia falls into the same category as Ukraine --> Georgia was also welcomed as a future NATO member in 2008, good luck with that ;)
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Nov 21 2024 09:47am
Quote (Djunior @ Nov 21 2024 04:12pm)
It's indeed very simple. This is about the West trying to pull Ukraine into their sphere of influence and Russia reacting to that.

If you didn't want this war then you shouldn't have messed with Ukraine.

Stop spewing Western propaganda lines, you're screaming and screeching in vain because by now we all know the West has been involved in Ukraine for decades.

BTW Chechnya was a domestic conflict, talking about Afghanistan is funny after the West occupied the country for 2 decades and Georgia falls into the same category as Ukraine --> Georgia was also welcomed as a future NATO member in 2008, good luck with that ;)


But Ukraine doesn't want to live in "ruski mir", they want to join the west. ruZZia has no say in it.
Stop spewing kremlin propaganda. Also happy 1000th day of 3 day special military operation ;)


Quote (doomchaser @ Nov 21 2024 03:29pm)
What are you saying ? Russia was baited and provoked to attack Ukraine? yes I agree ... There was a alternative to the attack .. and plenty of time for Ukraine to meet that alternative ... Ukraine said no They will keep arming Azov military nazi's.. Keep placing more anti Russian policies to their population of Russians .. and more..Who is apologetic ? you see no logic in the reasons for this war that we provoked? Just a mad man Putin invading for no reason? Well some of us look at both sides rather then just 1 side ..


No, russia was not provoked, russia is just nazi country ruled by "bunkiernyj died". Yes, putin is mad and is invading MULTIPLE countries for no reason.

You could have everything. Ample natural resources, huge land, huge population, but you prefer to piss it all away to ... try and take poorest country in EU and fail.
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Nov 21 2024 11:31am
Quote (nuvo @ Nov 21 2024 10:47am)
But Ukraine doesn't want to live in "ruski mir", they want to join the west. ruZZia has no say in it.
Stop spewing kremlin propaganda. Also happy 1000th day of 3 day special military operation ;)




No, russia was not provoked, russia is just nazi country ruled by "bunkiernyj died". Yes, putin is mad and is invading MULTIPLE countries for no reason.

You could have everything. Ample natural resources, huge land, huge population, but you prefer to piss it all away to ... try and take poorest country in EU and fail.


Putin has reasons, though. His core constituency considers Ukraine and Belarus to be part of Russia. In his own words, the collapse of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century. And the Russian regime is very concerned, not without reason, that the West would use Ukraine as a springboard to effect regime change within Russia. The new age historians talk about the need to "decolonize" Russia all the time. Do you think Russia isn't listening?

Reasons don't have to be moral and we don't have to agree with them. I can say that Putin is a modern tyrant and yet fully understand why he's doing what he's doing.
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Nov 21 2024 11:33am
Quote (bogie160 @ Nov 21 2024 05:31pm)
Putin has reasons, though. His core constituency considers Ukraine and Belarus to be part of Russia. In his own words, the collapse of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century. And the Russian regime is very concerned, not without reason, that the West would use Ukraine as a springboard to effect regime change within Russia. The new age historians talk about the need to "decolonize" Russia all the time. Do you think Russia isn't listening?

Reasons don't have to be moral and we don't have to agree with them. I can say that Putin is a modern tyrant and yet fully understand why he's doing what he's doing.


why do you even reply to that ? i mean when you see this narrative of russia is just nazi country you should be able to tell that these users have no deep understanding of the issues (and time has shown that its pointless trying to reason with unreasonable people).

The statement "Russia is just a Nazi country" reflects a broader phenomenon in geopolitical discourse, particularly during conflicts, where adversaries are often framed in dehumanizing or hyperbolic terms.

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Nov 21 2024 11:43am
Quote (nuvo @ 21 Nov 2024 23:47)
But Ukraine doesn't want to live in "ruski mir", they want to join the west. ruZZia has no say in it.
Stop spewing kremlin propaganda. Also happy 1000th day of 3 day special military operation ;)




No, russia was not provoked, russia is just nazi country ruled by "bunkiernyj died". Yes, putin is mad and is invading MULTIPLE countries for no reason.

You could have everything. Ample natural resources, huge land, huge population, but you prefer to piss it all away to ... try and take poorest country in EU and fail.


:rofl:

I love your post. Please post more.

:rofl:

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Nov 21 2024 11:44am
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Quote (nuvo @ 21 Nov 2024 16:47)
But Ukraine doesn't want to live in "ruski mir", they want to join the west. ruZZia has no say in it.
Stop spewing kremlin propaganda. Also happy 1000th day of 3 day special military operation ;)




No, russia was not provoked, russia is just nazi country ruled by "bunkiernyj died". Yes, putin is mad and is invading MULTIPLE countries for no reason.

You could have everything. Ample natural resources, huge land, huge population, but you prefer to piss it all away to ... try and take poorest country in EU and fail.


Cool story bro.
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Nov 21 2024 12:01pm
Imagine if humanity worked together to use our ingenuity and resources to do things other than blow each other up.
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