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Quote (Malopox @ Nov 20 2024 10:59am)
What’s the point for Russia to hammer Kiev if they are slowly winning anyway? Having civilian casualties hardens Ukranian resolve and promotes a new wave of media attention which ensures continued western support?


it would be part of the flattening Ukraine in response to long range strikes into Russia.
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it would be part of the flattening Ukraine in response to long range strikes into Russia.


I guess Putin is wise enough to not take the bait, atleast not yet
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Quote (El1te @ Nov 20 2024 10:17pm)
I guess Putin is wise enough to not take the bait, atleast not yet


ye, hard to tell how far the US and the UK will push it.

at least the headlines are accurate now: "Russia and US battle for advantage in Ukraine war ahead of Trump's return".

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Quote (Ironfister @ Nov 20 2024 11:32pm)
Russia plan was leaked!
Eastern Ukraine goes directly to Russia.
Central Ukraine (kyiv etc) gets occupied by Russian troops as a Russia vassal state, while retaining puppet government.
Western Ukraine is unknown for Russian at this point, most probably Russia will offer some land to Russia friendly Hungary


highly unlikely
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Nov 20 2024 05:16pm
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 20 Nov 2024 22:34)
source ?

Rachel Maddow from MSNBC ?


Source is Interfax Ukraine
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Quote (ownyaah @ 21 Nov 2024 00:02)
highly unlikely


Well, this is highly similar to previous map that Medvedev show us in the past:



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Quote (Ironfister @ Nov 21 2024 01:18am)
Well, this is highly similar to previous planned map:

https://imgur.com/gallery/future-map-of-ukraine-uiMwM7u


You are polish correct, i know there is a group of poles that want their territories back (due to hatred of bandera) . But even then I don´t think poland/hungary are interested in those territories, there is barely any poles in lwow.

- Third pard is what putin openly has said, he wants ukranians outside of the 4 oblasts.. so thats not really a surprise.

Anyhow highly unlikely, this would probably the worst case scenario for ukraine

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Quote (Ironfister @ Nov 20 2024 03:16pm)
Source is Interfax Ukraine


is that Ukraine state media?
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Nov 20 2024 06:20pm
Psychological War, Intercontinental Ballistic Threat: Russia’s Latest Move Against Ukraine

Though the source of this information remains unclear, the RBC-Ukraine media outlet reported that the Strategic Control channel, which specializes in monitoring radio frequencies and tracking Russian military transport aircraft, was likely the first to release such a warning

According to the Strategic Control channel, the potential use of the RS-26 Rubezh is likely a response to Ukrainian ATACMS ballistic missile strikes.
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/42569

50/50 on it being BS, but if the Russians do fire an Avangard at kiev, i hope they put a conventional warhead in it.
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Nov 21 2024 03:39am
Kyiv is claiming Russia struck Dnipro today with an ICBM- specifically claiming an ICBM from ~500-600 miles away (?) and not calling it a cruise missile or intermediate missile but a space trajectory and reentry, and a non-nuclear warhead
"Big if true" applies but it doesn't make much sense. US monitors should have been able to confirm the missile launch before it even struck if its a real ICBM
US officials talked to ABC and said it appeared to be an intermediate range ballistic missile, plainly not an ICBM. And that makes a lot more sense.

Still, those are the kinds of medium range nuclear capable missiles that are a big step up from cruise missiles
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