Nice, learned something new. Looks like 1991 is when they resumed talking to each other and slowly forged an alliance.

Start from 1.30

Really... I think you should find out more. It has been 2 years. A lot of us went to dig shit tons of past and present information to make a proper and final informed position on this war since then.



This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Nov 19 2024 02:25pm

USA should re-establish a great relationship with Russia which is very simple: obviously remove all sanctions, allow freedom of trade & exchange of information, etc.

As a token of good faith, round up all the Russia-deranged people in the media & send them to Putin so he can place them in labour colonies

Educational, thanks for sharing

You didn't know one of the most obvious and known by everyone bits of history

Why are you even talking about stuff like you have anything useful to say?

communists always eat each other - rule of thumb, no one is pure enough

This post was edited by El1te on Nov 19 2024 02:26pm

Look seriously, I really don't know where you get the information that Soviet Russia is Friends with China.



This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Nov 19 2024 02:32pm

It was a democracy. The pro Yanukovych, pro Russia side of the country was more populous and won the elections. That is how democracy works. The pro EU faction never achieved a democratic result. They are a minority group who overthrew a government by force, a coup d'etat by armed revolutionaries, an insurrection.

Again, as I pointed out, the Nazis backed by the US are the ones who overthrew a democracy and instituted a puppet government. Complete with all the terrors of suppression of minorities, assassination campaigns, hunting journalists, attacking churches, burning dissidents alive, holding mock votes with over half the country disenfranchised and finally suspending their pretense and abolishing votes so a dictator can stay in power indefinitely.

I have long wondered about the hypothetical alternative history where America didn't back a color revolution. Could pro EU sentiment have actually started winning hearts and minds and won at the ballot box instead of the ammo box? And we will never know the answer to this question: Would Russia have intervened to thwart a democracy turning against it, or would they have let Ukraine leave their sphere of influence by means of its own self determination?

We will not know that because the same folks who passed out signed copies of Mein Kampf and Protocols of the Elders of Zion in the streets are the ones who stormed the parliament and disbanded the government at gunpoint. Now we arm then and escalate at every step, oblivious to what the Nazis will do with our guns when the war is over

This post was edited by Goomshill on Nov 19 2024 02:52pm

A quick fact check shows that the pro-Western Yulia Tymoshenko got 46% of the popular vote in the 2nd round of the elections, so it's by no means a "minority group".
Also, in early 2013 their parliament voted 315 vs 34 to continue down the EU path. This doesn't look like a minority to me.

agree with the analysis of a "statement strike" from Russia here.