Fuck them. Your lucky we have laws to protect them and allow them to consume our resources.

I'd personally opt for a genocide.

u cant genocide a sexuality.

I'd have to look into the methodology for that graph specifically. Something to remember is that single income households are basically a thing of the past now, and a lot of those statistics don't include gig work that people are doing to fill in the gaps. It can be surprisingly difficult to find reliable data, but since most millenials report having a side job of some sort if a statistic doesn't explicitly include that it's under-estimating millenial working hours.

For that graph specifically, it looks like it's country wide, and since boomers were the largest workforce participants until 2016 and are still the second largest, and since they are older they will likely have significantly less working hours and drive down the average.

Also the per-worker basis can go down while millenials are still working more. If a typical boomer couple only had 50 worked hours a week, but millenials have 80 because both partners are working, that's still an increase since the wife working zero hours wasn't counted in the first statistic.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Jun 17 2021 10:17am

yes, but before women joined the workforce in earnest when the boomers were our age many men (what we'd isolate as individual worker hours) worked extensive overtime, especially in blue collar work but even in office settings.

i frankly don't think that 25-35 year olds in 2021 work more hours per week than boomer laborers did, let alone the parents of boomers. less money however is a given, both due to inflation/wage gaps and significantly higher cost floors adults face today. i wont entertain people who say things like "u dont need wifi, a cell phone, a car, etc", yes, we do.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jun 17 2021 10:26am

I think it's a given that millenials work more hours per week than boomer laborers did. Boomers weren't 1920's factory workers, and women are now working which itself will drive up per person hours worked. The propensity for gig work and side hustles is incredibly high under millenials as well as is unpaid overtime.

I don't think less money is a given (unless by "a given" you mean it's obviously the case. I agree with that. As I'm typing this I realize that's probably what you mean but I'm going to leave the rest of the sentence here anyway), it's because of the attacks on unions, trickle down becoming the de-facto model for government policy, and nearly unlimited corporate mergers driving down the number of competitors for workers.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Jun 17 2021 10:49am

your first post implied that a modern worker worked more hours (and for less money) than a boomer worker did at the same age. i dont think that's a given at all, unless we include women workers entering the workforce, which is an apples/oranges comparison.

indeed on money we're in agreement.

i'm for the record not claiming you're wrong outright, i just dont know, and dont think its a given.

When you say "a boomer worker" I think you are using an insufficient metric. If both couples are working 40 hours a week for millenials, and one is working 50 hours a week for boomers, then that one worker is still probably working less since there isn't somebody being a home maker. The boomer is getting 10 hours of work, 6 hours of leisure, and 8 hours of sleep. Meanwhile the millenial is getting 8 hours of work. 4 hours of chores, 4 hours of leisure, 8 hours of sleep. Now add in that commutes are higher than ever, and that 4 hours of leisure is more like 2 hours of leisure 2 hours commuting.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Jun 17 2021 11:09am

1. commute shouldn't really be calculated in work hours, it's indeed a bother and valid tangential data, but it's not work hours.

2. it's pretty sexist to not count stay at home moms of the boomer era as workers simply because they weren't paid. if we add 50 hour overtime boomer laborers to stay at home mom responsibilities the boomers win by a larger margin. and that's not even what im saying is the right metric.

there's also all sorts of small factors that alter this calculation if we taking things like chore time into account. in the boomer generation everything was "made to last" and men were expected to do much more work fixing things. less people used contractors and renovations were more personal. lawn mowing and landscaping services were only for the uber rich. and people grew more of their own food and made more of their own meals. not a knock on millennials, but relevant.

Seems like you're cherry picking. Commute shouldn't count, but stay at home mothers tasks do? A boomer stay at home mom was so ridiculously bored and depressed that prescription drug abuse was rampant to deal with their lack of purpose. Millenials still do the actual work, so it doesn't really get better to include it. Lawns are still mowed, laundry is still folded, houses are still maintained.

im cherry picking your contradiction. you want to include house chores of millennials but exclude homemakers of the boomer era entirely from the calculation. and of course millenials dont live in fully automated houses, we're talking about nominal factors. more millenials live in apartments and dont shovel or mow anything, dont repair anything. the average millennial today couldnt change the trap on a bathroom sink i'd wager, thats a shift.

my point is that neither commute nor home chores should count. we SHOULD exclude both homemaker hours and millennial chores, and commute. the comparison should be # of hours paid on the job if we want apples to apples. if it includes ubering, or other side hustles, and millenials win, fine. id just be interested to find out the real number without fluff.