Countries are free to join what they like, no matter if aggressive neighbour likes it or not. They have right to defend from said neighbour. NATO is not spreading, again, its countries willingly joining it because they are under threat of russia.


So? Ukraine and Georgia can join NATO or EU and its only those countries (and current members) decision. Russia has no say in it. Why is it so hard to understand you russian puppets? Russia has no say in other countries' affairs.. And saying they are justified in murder of millions because they feel they have is just disgusting.

That is like saying U.S has no say about nukes in Cuba ... Your logic is flawed

The countries were NOT under threat, the USSR withdrew from those countries without a shot fired after negotiations. That's the FACTS right there no matter how you or other shills try to spin it. After peaceful negotiations and promises of "NATO won't move East" country after country was absorbed into NATO. Again, that's the FACTS right there. Do you even know what you're talking about here?

If you believe your side (you're clearly shilling for NATO) can do what they please without taking the realities of geo-politics into consideration than don't be surprised when there's a country that decides to resist your ambitions.

This post was edited by Djunior on Nov 18 2024 01:23am

Putin is more than welcome to apply for NATO membership. There are just a few simple requirements, and I'm sure he can meet the defense spending % with flying colours.

Here's the longer read: https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_49212.htm

This post was edited by Ashirgo on Nov 18 2024 01:39am

Didn't Russia ask to join NATO like 2 decades ago and NATO denied? Pretty sure this was discussed already in this topic

Funnily yes, Putin considered this early in his career, according to this ex NATO leader:
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/04/ex-nato-head-says-putin-wanted-to-join-alliance-early-on-in-his-rule

He didn't want to properly apply, mind you. He's still welcome, though!

This post was edited by Ashirgo on Nov 18 2024 02:10am

No, it's like saying Cuba has no say about USA. Imagine Cuba threatening nuclear war because USA wanted to build a wall with Mexico.



boy, are you dense.

FACTS are those countries WANTED TO join NATO because they fear another war with russia. And it clearly shows it worked, that countries that joined - eg Poland are safer than those that didn't - eg. Ukraine. Hell, Ukraine is bigger and was richer back then.

Also not under threat, my ass. There was literally russian army stationing in those countries. But we chose freedom over "ruski mir".




Don't be surprised when entire world hates your guts because you are imperialistic shithole of a country constantly attacking multiple neighbours

And again, russia can literally end war today, but chooses not to.

This post was edited by nuvo on Nov 18 2024 02:30am

sorry double. Clicked quote instead edit

This post was edited by nuvo on Nov 18 2024 02:30am

You know you just spreading lies right? In Afghanistan we armed the taliban and trained them to kill Russians .. Now we arm and train far right nazi's Azov after creating them in 2014 to coup the Government in Ukraine... We all know Ukraine should of joined Bricks, rather then asking to join Nato and get destroyed on the border of Russia.. We provoked Russia to invade ...Fight Russia to the last Ukrainian ...Only Ukrainians that want this is the 4% so called azov and all the Children they taught in summer schools the past 10 years... And those old time Ukrainians mad about losing WW2 and the consequences of taking the side of the Nazi's..

No, we don't know any such thing.