There will probably be no EU/USA funding during the cease fire, so Ukraine will have to greatly decrease their military budget and army size, it will be very bad for Ukrainian army.
There will have to be elections, Ukrainian politics attacking each other fighting for votes, which could add to chaos.
Also you cannot expect western companies to rebuild and invest in Ukraine unless a permanent peace will be signed.
Lastly many Ukrainians will leave their country, seeing that there will be another war soon.
All of these are negatives for Ukrainian army/gov, so keeping fighting could be a better solution for them.

The fact that the bold part came out of you I find it extraordinary remarkable.
How many lives, children, young and old are lost due of US interference in other countries because they choose a government that may not have place US interest on the first place.



You mean like that ?



This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Nov 17 2024 12:25pm

Gamble away all your all your savings folks, there might be no Christmas this year:

Biden lifts ban on Ukraine using US arms to strike inside Russia
https://www.reuters.com/world/biden-lifts-ban-ukraine-using-us-arms-strike-inside-russia-2024-11-17/

This needs to have a thread on it's own

And you think countries like Poland or Lithuania didn't want to join NATO but were forced to? KEK



Ruzzia already attacked Finland in the past. Some of former Finland territory is now occupied by russia




Nice kremlin propaganda there, but no. It's not spreading, countries willingly join NATO because they want to be safe from russia. Like Poland, you think we want to leave NATO because russia wants us to? Hell fuck no.



Of course not, they also invaded Afghanistan, Chechnya, Moldavia and Georgia. And Ukraine in 2014. But sure, world will be safer when they can freely invade the Baltics, Lithuania, Poland, Finland and what else, putin just wants peace so they all should just let them right?!



Cry more, poor russia, invaded MULTIPLEneighbours, murdered, raped and pillaged and now ... some random on the internet says bad words about them, booo hoooo

This post was edited by nuvo on Nov 17 2024 12:37pm

False Equivalence No one is talking about Poland or Lithuania on this thread, they are insignificant or at least not that important.
Even if it was important in the past, they have already joined NATO and there is absolutely nothing the Russians can do about it.

Furthermore , judging from your understanding of the world at large, what you are saying is, major or superpowers can, within their influence and power create military alliance putting WMD right beside another superpower.

A perfect recipe for disaster. Might as well put a few hundred Nukes in Iran and Syria right now and wait for Israel to strike and return the favor in nukes.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Nov 17 2024 12:40pm

Russia is absolutely talking about Poland and Lithuania, that NATO should go back to pre-1997 borders, and that means Poland and more. And even some russian bois in this topic say NATO is "spreading" despite "promises" and poor russia was just provoked

Summed up, this is a catastrophic defeat for Ukraine that could have been dampened if they instead had more humility and less pride, many such cases in history

Yes of course you are not wrong.

But too bad, Russian can't do anything about it anymore.

So whatever they have on hand, be it Eastern Ukraine, Belarus, Georgia. They ain't going to let that happen.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Nov 17 2024 12:42pm

Lol if these European nations seriously believe they are under threat, they would have invested heavily into the military, mandate enrolment, have press gangs and conscription

But they didn't, they are pathetic and weak and have parasitically leeched off America this whole time

And if they do believe that and didn't invest in military, they are fools who do not deserve to hold levers of power

This post was edited by El1te on Nov 17 2024 12:46pm