Russia and SA caring about those people?

of course not. they care as little as the US. what i'm saying is that it's their TURN. after all, those three are some of the main driving forces behind the whole mess in the middle east...

Data has shown that people that have absolutely no affiliation with far-right vote against the government if EU does not get it's act together. People understand that the situation is not resolved by letting wave after wave of these immigrants in and that it actually gets worse because there are millions waiting to join.

Facts that make EU citizens change their mind with regards to mass immigration:
-> Human traffickers profit and are known to let boats float on the sea without engine because they know EU will come out to "save" these illegal immigrants.
-> Many of these illegal immigrants come from countries that are considered safe so they are economical immigrants and will not get a permit in EU. However they throw away their ID and cannot be sent back to where they come from. Even if they have ID their home countries do not cooperate with EU immigration services.
-> The economic refugees go not back by themselves. They hang out on the streets and cause the problems you read about in the newspapers. There are so many of these by now, without chances of a permit, it's insane. And no solution in sight.

I can go on about integration, adaptation, language, work, etc. You get the drift

oh y, the vast majority of politics, i meant, do not want far right (which is corrupt and often incompetent, and it's ideologically understandable...) to get even more "fame" because of more boats video are pooped on Youtube.
People we get inside have the full benefits of a full healthcare, welfare, even retirement: we are not closing our eyes on new migrants because it's cheap workers we can bitch on the back at the same time.

I was not talking about laborers, the illegals I talk about don't work. They receive handouts and supplement with shoplifting and such. Have a look around in paris and talk to some shop owners

build a sea wall!

and the caronavirus will pay for it !

Just a friendly reminder: of the few migrants who broke through the Greek border over the last 10 days, only very few of them are actually Syrians - most of them are from Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iran.
This was also confirmed by EU Commissionar Johannes Hahn: https://www.kleinezeitung.at/politik/aussenpolitik/5781563/EUKommissar_Hahn_Kaum-Syrer-an-tuerkischgriechischer-Grenze




In general, there are three different situations going at once which are easy to mix up:

- There are the people from the Syrian province of Idlib who are stuck at the border between Syria and Turkey after fleeing from an offense by the Assad regime. It should be noted that most of the rebels and islamists in Syria had retreated to Idlib months ago, it was the last region of the country not under control by the government. To complicate things even further, Turkish troops staged an illegal invasion of Syria, trying to get Idlib under their control. Turkey has long been allied with many of the islmamists and rebel groups in Syria, and Turkey has used them as proxy troops during their offense which is now being driven back.

- There are the roughly 3.5m refugees and migrants living in Turkey today. They have received schools and supplies financed by the EU, so the direct costs they cause for the Turkish state are actually rather low. They are, however, a burden on the local housing and job markets, and the mood in the Turkish population has swung against them over the last year or so. 10 days ago, Erdogan has started bringing several thousand of them to the Greek-Turkish border in an attempt at putting pressure on the EU. By blackmailing the EU with the threat of another migrant wave, he hopes to get more money that goes into his own national budget, instead of being funneled directly to the NGOs which are operating the refugee camps on Turkish soil. (He's also seeking some other concessions like easier EU visas for Turkish citizens.) This group of ~3.5m migrants in Turkey consists of Syrian refugees and migrants from Africa/Afghanistan/Pakistan etc who are just seeking a better life, usually with the endgoal of going to Europe.

- There are some 50-60k migrants on the Greek islands, they came between 2016 and 2019 in an attempt to reach mainland Europe, but were stopped and are stuck now.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Mar 10 2020 07:33am

Assad is still there. There probably won't be real rebuilding of their society when they person who destroyed it to keep control is still sitting on top of them. He barrel bombed his hospitals.