Quote (ofthevoid @ Nov 10 2024 10:58pm)
NATO membership is a non-starter, and the people that keep insisting, whether it's in Ukraine or Washington or Brussels are not serious about coming to some middle ground peace. I honestly think these people are asking for this because it's a feign to appear as if they are striving for peace but it's just a poison pill by neocons. I mean I'm not sure how many times do Russian authorities need to repeat that it doesn't matter if it's next year, 4 years or 20 years down the line, it's an unacceptable request.
I don't think Russia gets the full 4 regions. I also don't know about the frozen assets. I think if Russia gets the full 4 Oblasts, that would be viewed as a loss for Ukraine IMO.
its all in bad faith, the pentagon/NATO wants the war to continue to weaken russia and western liberals are willing to sacrifice every last ukranian like its spring 1945 just so thes can stick with their POOOOOTIN BAD hypermoral
well said with the poison pill
Quote (ferdia @ Nov 11 2024 12:44am)
its a wait and see. for sure we are living in interesting times. Donald Trump, who knew! its hilarious, first they were saying "well donald trump said he would end it in a day" and now they are saying "donald trump is giving land to Russia". absolutely hilarious mental gymnastics.
Ukraine bombed its own people for 8 years, it has lost the right to govern those people, and Ukraine can forget about crimea, finally.
you can still find clips from back in the day "someone stop the ukranian regime from murdering its own people"
and then everything flipped