Quote (El1te @ Nov 7 2024 08:33pm)
They aren't struggling with Ukraine, they're struggling against cutting edge American armaments
And the Soviets under Stalin crushed them quite decisively, they were conquered in perpetuity until the Union collapsed
Not even really cutting edge, it's just the simple volume. We've literally crowdsourced all Soviet Era equipment from all central Europe to send to Ukraine. When that ran out, we started pumping it with NATO weapons to the tune of hundreds of billions. You combine our massive intel apparatus with this level of arms flow and you get a capable force that can withstand a legitimate military like Russia's, at least for a few years. The issue is they're running out of men, and they've ran out of
willing men a year ago. So now, forcing 45 year old's to gear up and go sit in a cold wet trench for 24hours a day months at a time is hugely unpopular. There's massive internal political debates in Ukraine because the armed forces are straight up saying we need to mobilize another 160k like yesterday, but between all the men that left the country, the ones in hiding, the ones that are connected and paid their way out, there's no willing. The politicians also understand that you can only do this for so long before the average person is going to start fire bombing the recruiters and start having these enforcers be targeted. Most people in that country are desperate for the war to end, have been for such a long time. The time for peace is now, not 6 months, 12 months, 3 years down the line waiting for some desert mirage of finally 'getting the upper hand' to force Russia to fully withdraw. It's not happening, cut your losses, stop the bloodshed, and focus on the hemorrhaging population decline.
edit: On Nazis.
The Banderites are generally a minority. Vast majority of Ukrainians are maybe nationalistic, but they're not pravi sector/Azov type nazis. I don't know how you get rid of those elements, because they're also the most dangerous and armed. These are the type of people that pushed this country to this level, which is really sad because a lot of people lost their lives for nothing.I suspect a lot of these type of characters when the war ends, if they are pushed out of power will quickly find their way into Europe. No one wants them though.
This post was edited by ofthevoid on Nov 7 2024 08:49pm