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Nov 5 2024 08:18am
Quote (ferdia @ Nov 5 2024 07:59am)
i would honestly opine that life in DPRK is worse then virtually anywhere on the planet. Western Ukraine looks functionally better the N Korea.


When women and children are fleeing the country and men are forcibly conscripted to sure death? And under bombardment and losing utilities all the time
North Koreans don't have a particularly terrible quality of life in the 2020s, not at least anything on par with the eras of communist atrocities / purges / famine like it used to be. They've got generally functional social services, education, industrialization, public transportation, etc, they aren't just living in mud huts and rice paddies anymore. Obviously vastly more developed in Pyongyang, but the rest of the country isn't living much worse than rural areas of other asian countries. Less technology, no internet. A person could live and die a relatively peaceful and secure life as a farm laborer or factory worker or school teacher in North Korea right now.

Its a pretty easy choice between whether things are better for the average citizens of north korea or ukraine, but that's like asking whether its better to be a medieval peasant or to be the guy with his head in the stockades
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Nov 5 2024 08:23am
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When women and children are fleeing the country and men are forcibly conscripted to sure death? And under bombardment and losing utilities all the time
North Koreans don't have a particularly terrible quality of life in the 2020s, not at least anything on par with the eras of communist atrocities / purges / famine like it used to be. They've got generally functional social services, education, industrialization, public transportation, etc, they aren't just living in mud huts and rice paddies anymore. Obviously vastly more developed in Pyongyang, but the rest of the country isn't living much worse than rural areas of other asian countries. Less technology, no internet. A person could live and die a relatively peaceful and secure life as a farm laborer or factory worker or school teacher in North Korea right now.

Its a pretty easy choice between whether things are better for the average citizens of north korea or ukraine, but that's like asking whether its better to be a medieval peasant or to be the guy with his head in the stockades


fair point.
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Nov 5 2024 09:01am
that the delay in the delivery of the ASC 890 Airborne Early Warning (AEW) aircraft, known as the Saab 340, is not directly linked to Sweden. Approval from the United States is required.

In other words, according to him, Sweden’s announcement doesn’t mean the deal is sealed.

"We thank the Swedes for opening the gate, but now it’s up to the Americans. And this is where things get uncomfortable," the expert added.
https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/delay-in-asc-890-aircraft-transfer-to-ukraine-1730469393.html

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Quote (Thebarba @ Nov 4 2024 09:50am)
That's the idea - Russia has first hand visceral experience with drone warfare rather than what, at best, the US has which is observational. But even then, the US is so corrupt, drowning in bureaucracy and broken that I don't believe we will be gaining much pedigree without being directly involved in a mass drone war.


Good point, Russian soldiers will have the direct drone combat experience, while the US simply uses Ukrainian lives like NPCs in an RTS strategy game

When all the Ukrainians are dead the US will be satisfied, "we learned alot and lost nothing of value"
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Nov 5 2024 11:24pm
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When women and children are fleeing the country and men are forcibly conscripted to sure death? And under bombardment and losing utilities all the time
North Koreans don't have a particularly terrible quality of life in the 2020s, not at least anything on par with the eras of communist atrocities / purges / famine like it used to be. They've got generally functional social services, education, industrialization, public transportation, etc, they aren't just living in mud huts and rice paddies anymore. Obviously vastly more developed in Pyongyang, but the rest of the country isn't living much worse than rural areas of other asian countries. Less technology, no internet. A person could live and die a relatively peaceful and secure life as a farm laborer or factory worker or school teacher in North Korea right now.

Its a pretty easy choice between whether things are better for the average citizens of north korea or ukraine, but that's like asking whether its better to be a medieval peasant or to be the guy with his head in the stockades


They don't have Freedom

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They don't have Freedom


Freedom is one metric. Then theres having a roof over your head, your next three meals and not being killed in your sleep by a shahed drone. For all its militarization and repression, North Koreans are not being killed en masse by either war or their own regime
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Nov 6 2024 01:44am
So those damn Russians hacked the US elections again
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So those damn Russians hacked the US elections again


There's a chance to go full Moldova and turn the remaining 2% of bulletins into solid 10% gap
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Nov 6 2024 02:41am
Ukraine is saved. Fuck territory. Harris winning would've meant another eleventy billion war deaths while still losing all that territory. With Trump, Ukraine can lose less territory and end this gae regarded war right quick. Let Putin have Crimea and Donbass, he's bloody well earned it at this point. Right of conquest.
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Quote (Thebarba @ Nov 6 2024 03:41am)
Ukraine is saved. Fuck territory. Harris winning would've meant another eleventy billion war deaths while still losing all that territory. With Trump, Ukraine can lose less territory and end this gae regarded war right quick. Let Putin have Crimea and Donbass, he's bloody well earned it at this point. Right of conquest.


I’m really hoping we hear of some peace deal talked about in the next few months
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