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Quote (El1te @ Oct 25 2024 05:58am)
Yeah they're just cannon fodder sadly

But it's a brilliant strategic position. Russia can throw as many of their lives away because they don't care (this was the same in WWII - they largely sent conscripts from conquered regions to go fight on the frontlines, not ethnic Russians) and it demoralizes the Ukrainians


Russian lives outside moscow useless and worthless to Russian government anyway, just merely a show parade circus between 2 shit mentally crippled dictatorship.
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Quote (El1te @ 24 Oct 2024 22:58)
Yeah they're just cannon fodder sadly

But it's a brilliant strategic position. Russia can throw as many of their lives away because they don't care (this was the same in WWII - they largely sent conscripts from conquered regions to go fight on the frontlines, not ethnic Russians) and it demoralizes the Ukrainians


For how much you guys feign moral outrage at Ukraine throwing peasants into the meatgrinder, the "Ukraine should surrender sign a peace treaty to prevent further bloodshed"-faction seems eerily quiet about NK doing the exact same thing.
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For how much you guys feign moral outrage at Ukraine throwing peasants into the meatgrinder, the "Ukraine should surrender sign a peace treaty to prevent further bloodshed"-faction seems eerily quiet about NK doing the exact same thing.


I'm confused, they *should* sign a peace treaty to end the bloodshed, I don't want North Korean peasants to be thrown into the meatgrinder
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Oct 24 2024 05:22pm
At the first days of the conflict these guys were Buryats, now they evolved into Koreans. Their Mega Evolution must be Chinese.
PS: 2-3 thousands of Koreans left

This post was edited by Norlander on Oct 24 2024 05:27pm
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Quote (El1te @ 25 Oct 2024 01:21)
I'm confused, they *should* sign a peace treaty to end the bloodshed, I don't want North Korean peasants to be thrown into the meatgrinder


It's not Ukraine sending these poor North Korean souls to the meatgrinder, it's Russia. If you argue that the Ukrainian goverment should make concessions to prevent the needless death of their soldiers, then the same logic dictates that Russia should make concessions to prevent the needless death of these North Korean soldiers who are fighting on their behalf.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 24 2024 04:25pm)
It's not Ukraine sending these poor North Korean souls to the meatgrinder, it's Russia. If you argue that the Ukrainian goverment should make concessions to prevent the needless death of their soldiers, then the same logic dictates that Russia should make concessions to prevent the needless death of these North Korean soldiers.


I do think Russia should make concessions too, typically a peace treaty would have both sides making compromises since it likely would be a conditional surrender, not unconditional. Not conquering all of Ukraine is a concession - allowing Western Ukraine to exist as a rump state (if they go that route). Russia is trying to end the war, while Ukraine is trying to prolong the war. Using NK soldiers is a pragmatic solution towards ending the conflict since Ukrainians are less motivated to fight them.
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Quote (Norlander @ Oct 24 2024 04:22pm)
At the first days of the conflict these guys were Buryats, now they evolved into Koreans. Their Mega Evolution must be Chinese.
PS: 2-3 thousands of Koreans left


China will send the Uyghurs :lol:
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Quote (El1te @ 25 Oct 2024 02:31)
China will send the Uyghurs :lol:


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Quote (El1te @ 25 Oct 2024 01:29)
I do think Russia should make concessions too, typically a peace treaty would have both sides making compromises since it likely would be a conditional surrender, not unconditional. Not conquering all of Ukraine is a concession - allowing Western Ukraine to exist as a rump state (if they go that route). Russia is trying to end the war, while Ukraine is trying to prolong the war. Using NK soldiers is a pragmatic solution towards ending the conflict since Ukrainians are less motivated to fight them.


Russia is trying to end the war by winning it on the battlefield while Ukraine is trying to hang on.

Would this hypothetical Western Ukrainian rump state be allowed to join the EU? NATO?

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Quote (Fnall @ Oct 25 2024 03:51am)
North Korean soldiers were being disguised as Russians and were acting under the Kremlin’s command instead of their own, South Korean Defense Minister Kim Yong-hyun reported to lawmakers Thursday.

2 chinese protectorate without knowing they vassals, how fast will china dump :lol: ?


Foreign mercenaries disguised as Ukrainians have been fighting in Ukraine (and dying) since the start of the conflict.

Edit: And reportedly most of them left Ukraine if they were still alive after they found out they didn't even get paid to cover their expenses and were outgunned ten to one by the Russians.

Great testing ground

This post was edited by Djunior on Oct 24 2024 05:58pm
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