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Oct 21 2024 06:14pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 21 2024 04:41pm)
Mate, there were no 'other side' militias or round ups. Stuff like this happened not only in Odessa but many other cities across Ukraine, especially ones that had significant Russian friendlies. Kharkiv is another example. This isn't really covered well, but subsequent 2014, there were a lot of murders and cleansing of such political opponents, performed by neo nazi and nationalists like Pravi sector/Azov. Trying to 'both sides' this is dishonest.


honestly any of this could be AI generated and you wouldn't know the difference
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Oct 21 2024 06:19pm
Quote (girly @ 22 Oct 2024 08:14)
honestly any of this could be AI generated and you wouldn't know the difference


Not sure if you are trolling.
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Oct 21 2024 06:24pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 21 2024 06:41pm)
Mate, there were no 'other side' militias or round ups. Stuff like this happened not only in Odessa but many other cities across Ukraine, especially ones that had significant Russian friendlies. Kharkiv is another example. This isn't really covered well, but subsequent 2014, there were a lot of murders and cleansing of such political opponents, performed by neo nazi and nationalists like Pravi sector/Azov. Trying to 'both sides' this is dishonest.


Just the known journalists and former MPs killed during the Maidan and aftermath is enough of a proven track record. There were a whole bunch of one-off assassinations on top of the bigger massacres like Odessa. There were a lot of vehicles of people killed during the exodus and fleeing back in 2014, including some identifiable people thanks to those journalists covering it and being among the killed. EX a convoy of civilians was escaping Donetsk in the summer following the Maidan and were machine gunned and bombed by the Ukrainian army. We'll never know how many were killed, but when a journalist travels with them and his car is found bullet riddled and burnt out, we at least know its happening.

Its hardly the first time this has happened in history, this happens every time one ethnic power seizes control of a country and the other ethnic groups are forced to flee
India, every african conflict, etc, etc. Nazis strafed the french as they fled the occupation in bicycle caravans.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Oct 21 2024 06:26pm
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Oct 21 2024 06:40pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 21 2024 09:40am)
Whatever truth there is to the Odessa fire storyline, the pro-Russian propagandists did the credibility of this story no favor by embellishing and disseminating a lot of ridiculous horror stories at the same time, stories about garrotted pregnant women or children which were crucified by pro-Ukrainian separatists. (Crucified as in the ancient execution method...)


Crucifixion was pretty common in that area during WWII, practiced by both the Germans/Ukrainians and the Soviets (during their advance)

This post was edited by El1te on Oct 21 2024 06:43pm
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Oct 21 2024 07:48pm
Russia deliberately hit a kindergarten in Zaporizhzhia, several men in camouflage injured. Allegedly pedophiles. Because there should be children in kindergarten. That’s how logic works. Or not? Possibly, I say possibly, there is a non-zero chance that this is just a sturdy building suitable for a warehouse or a temporary accommodation point.
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