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May 16 2020 08:03am
Quote (Skinned @ May 16 2020 08:46am)
Especially since she seems to be fabricating a sexual assault.


Okay I was wrong, she'd be "The lying slut who made sure we didn't elect the first black president"
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May 16 2020 08:09am
Quote (Skinned @ May 16 2020 06:46am)
Especially since she seems to be fabricating a sexual assault.


That's the exact opposite of what the majority appear to believe. There's more evidence that there was a sexual assault than that there wasn't.

What's with the need to prove story false, btw? It's not an actionable item. Why weren't you going after Kavanaugh's accuser(s) or Trump's accuser(s) in the same fashion? With those, there was not documented evidence. There was no when or where or details of any kind. Just a bunch of bullshit nonsense. This one has far too much documented evidence that yeah, something happened.

See, here's the thing, if you support someone's goals to a great enough extent, then you may be willing to "take one for the team" and forego justice.

Myself, I firmly support Elon Musk. South African Immigrant, brilliant feller, huge into robotics, brought us Tesla, wonderful autos with extremely high power and style, but lower environmental costs, SpaceX, and plenty more. On the flipside, he has a globalist mindset, socialist tendencies (UBI, etc.), and believes that "True Democracy" should be the standard, even though that's been proven to fail miserably. Yet I don't rip him up and down for his politics, because I believe that his business ventures are worth the irritability his need to speak towards ripping apart market economics. I mean, he's just one guy. He can't reshape the market by himself, he CAN potentially create the advances in robotics to allow us to achieve a level of production without the need for employment that suddenly a UBI won't even be NECESSARY, as the food, clothing, and housing will already exist. If you want the "Star Trek" future where "the quest for material things" is no longer an issue, he's a great person to support.

Likewise, Reade has expressed constant support of Joe Bidan's politics, to the point where she'd easily have been willing to avoid airing her personal grievances in an effort to keep "the dream" alive.

I don't really see how she'd have any impact whatsoever on #metoo. If there's anything that's harmful to the #metoo campaign, it's the attempt by progressive and establishment democrats to smash her reputation without proof or evidence that she's being dishonest. :)
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May 16 2020 08:33am
Quote (InsaneBobb @ 16 May 2020 10:09)
That's the exact opposite of what the majority appear to believe. There's more evidence that there was a sexual assault than that there wasn't.

What's with the need to prove story false, btw? It's not an actionable item. Why weren't you going after Kavanaugh's accuser(s) or Trump's accuser(s) in the same fashion? With those, there was not documented evidence. There was no when or where or details of any kind. Just a bunch of bullshit nonsense. This one has far too much documented evidence that yeah, something happened.

See, here's the thing, if you support someone's goals to a great enough extent, then you may be willing to "take one for the team" and forego justice.

Myself, I firmly support Elon Musk. South African Immigrant, brilliant feller, huge into robotics, brought us Tesla, wonderful autos with extremely high power and style, but lower environmental costs, SpaceX, and plenty more. On the flipside, he has a globalist mindset, socialist tendencies (UBI, etc.), and believes that "True Democracy" should be the standard, even though that's been proven to fail miserably. Yet I don't rip him up and down for his politics, because I believe that his business ventures are worth the irritability his need to speak towards ripping apart market economics. I mean, he's just one guy. He can't reshape the market by himself, he CAN potentially create the advances in robotics to allow us to achieve a level of production without the need for employment that suddenly a UBI won't even be NECESSARY, as the food, clothing, and housing will already exist. If you want the "Star Trek" future where "the quest for material things" is no longer an issue, he's a great person to support.

Likewise, Reade has expressed constant support of Joe Bidan's politics, to the point where she'd easily have been willing to avoid airing her personal grievances in an effort to keep "the dream" alive.

I don't really see how she'd have any impact whatsoever on #metoo. If there's anything that's harmful to the #metoo campaign, it's the attempt by progressive and establishment democrats to smash her reputation without proof or evidence that she's being dishonest. :)

is elon musk the greatest african-american since MLK Jr and Rosa Parks?
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May 16 2020 10:13am
Quote (Goomshill @ May 16 2020 03:29am)
Wonder how much it blows your mind to realize I voted for Joe Biden in both the 2008 and 2020 primaries.

The truth is the truth no matter what spin or perspective you want to put on it. Joe Biden's denial is inconsistent with the evidence, while Reade's general story is consistent with the evidence. We have enough verifiable corroboration so far to say its implausible shes just making it all up, yet that's still the line you want to stick with. Even if you'd need to jump through giant plot holes like explaining why she'd stick to her story in private, why she'd wait 27 years, why theres no record to contradict her. Whats her motive? Shes a biden staffer and bernie supporter, and no friend of Trump. If she had done it to help Bernie, she'd go public before Joe won.

Theres too much evidence to pretend she made it all up. Thats just inconsistent with the verifiable facts. And its pretty ridiculous when you hold up Joe Biden's "reputation" as if its evidence against. There was already a website so infamous it was permabanned from reddit comments, devoted to showing Joe Biden putting his hands on women in public- before this scandal. He started his campaigb by apologizing for his handsiness. If thats how he is in public, how is a Joe with a hardon in private?

Im inclined to believe whichever side has the preponderance of evidence and a logical and consistent story, and much more inclined to believe an accusation when the accused acts as guilty as Joe has.


I'm sure you could write an essay explaining those decisions... who cares though? You come here everyday to defend Trump and attack his enemies. Plain and simple. Why not just admit what you are?

As I said, I don't really care about a coherent narrative. Is it possible she was harassed or something, then fired? Sure. But that tells us she lied about the sexual assault in order to get attention. I'm not going to round up all the evidence on both sides to post here, and then spend time debunking your framing of some of the facts, because people can read all the stories and decide for themselves. There's a lot of evidence surrounding this case, and I believe a reasonable take based on that evidence is Biden did not sexually assault this woman.

This is all putting aside the fact that Trump has faced numerous credible allegations, and the cult doesn't even pretend to care.
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May 16 2020 11:16am
Quote (IceMage @ May 16 2020 09:13am)
I'm sure you could write an essay explaining those decisions... who cares though? You come here everyday to defend Trump and attack his enemies. Plain and simple. Why not just admit what you are?

As I said, I don't really care about a coherent narrative. Is it possible she was harassed or something, then fired? Sure. But that tells us she lied about the sexual assault in order to get attention. I'm not going to round up all the evidence on both sides to post here, and then spend time debunking your framing of some of the facts, because people can read all the stories and decide for themselves. There's a lot of evidence surrounding this case, and I believe a reasonable take based on that evidence is Biden did not sexually assault this woman.

This is all putting aside the fact that Trump has faced numerous credible allegations, and the cult doesn't even pretend to care.


I don't give a fuck about Trump or his "enemies". And I did NOT vote for biden in 2008 or 2012. I voted for Obama, with the firm knowledge that Joe was going to be eating crayons in the TV room.

I won't vote for Biden because his mind is in an advanced state of deterioration, he truly is a creepy touchy feel person I wouldn't ever want to see any woman or little girl around, and the evidence against him regarding Reade only serves to reinforce what's already known.

Dems fucked up. I'm 100% ready to vote on a candidate other than Trump. Show me one that will put America's tax dollars towards America. Show me one that promotes equality of opportunity, not redistribution of wealth. Show me one that seeks to limit government overreach into daily life, and instead focuses on defense and infrastructure in order to assist in it. I'll be voting right next to you.

Until then, between Trump and Biden? Biden will be another 4 (maybe 8) years of Obama. It'll be his ticket back into the whitehouse. All of his cronies will be right back on top, all of his policies will be pushed through. Had enough of that socialist scum, and idgaf if I voted for him twice. Biden's nothing but a figurehead, and I suspect we can all agree who'd hold the reins.

And I want to see just ONE "credible" allegation against Trump. I mean, how about one that includes a when and where and who was there? Pfft.
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May 16 2020 12:23pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 15 May 2020 06:29)
https://time.com/5837282/joe-biden-tara-reade-dont-vote-for-me/

Its amazing how in every campaign appearance on video, Joe Biden tells voters a new reason to not vote for him.
Once I'd call it a blip. Twice I'd call it funny. 3+ times now I'm wondering what's going on in Joe's head, this is his new refrain, "If you ....., don't vote for Joe Biden"




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May 16 2020 12:32pm
Quote (excellence @ May 15 2020 05:19pm)
So you empathize with the creatures you torture. what a waste of lefty privilege


Murdering about 60 mice.

Takes 7 mins per 20.

Bored waiting on the co2 cage to run
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May 16 2020 06:27pm
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/what-we-learned-about-bidens-senate-offices-in-the-1990s

PBS interviewed 74 Biden staffers, 62 of them women. I believe that Biden made her uncomfortable at one point and that she had issues working with her coworkers in the 90s. However, I don't believe she was sexually assaulted by Biden.
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May 17 2020 12:24pm
Biden said if you believe Tara Reade, don't vote for him. If I recall correctly, he has said "vote for someone else" or "don't vote for me" a number of times this campaign. Not exactly trying to win votes when pressed, challenged, or criticized.

It's like Democrats aren't even trying. Hillary Clinton in 2016 and Biden in 2020. Real nice.
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May 17 2020 01:11pm
Quote (ThatAlex @ May 17 2020 01:24pm)
Biden said if you believe Tara Reade, don't vote for him. If I recall correctly, he has said "vote for someone else" or "don't vote for me" a number of times this campaign. Not exactly trying to win votes when pressed, challenged, or criticized.

It's like Democrats aren't even trying. Hillary Clinton in 2016 and Biden in 2020. Real nice.


Just another example of why good people can't win in politics. It's seen as terrible and not seeking votes if you don't pander and lie.
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