So... like how long until impeachment?

The dude is in a guild named Black Power, has a signature of an underage anime girl (almost nude) being caressed by Trump.. why bother replying to him, don't waste your time

Enlightenment happens in its own time for all. And that sig if badass af.

I don't see it as blackmail because it's standard procedure. I'm sorry you're not familiar with how this works.

Enlightenment happens when someone is open minded, not closed minded with a delusional set of beliefs that don't align with reality (and not willing to change)

This post was edited by JoseMcMaster on Sep 20 2017 07:59pm

This isn't an episode of NCIS. Its a federal investigation into the president about possible connections to Russia. They know Trump is innocent but they want to take him down anyway.

They don't know he's innocent, that's why they're investigating....

wrong

The same justice and intelligence professionals we know were compromised with partisan political intrigue due to oodles of testimony and almost daily politically motivated classified information leaks?
Ice, we know that plenty of people within the justice and intelligence departments weren't doing their jobs and absolutely had sinister political motivations. We had James Comey testify to 'matters' and other interference in Hillary's emails, we had the steele dossier leak, the flynn transcripts leak, Trump's scheduling, his statements to Comey, a trickle of details from within investigations and all throughout every little facet of the story. We know all that was motivated by political intrigue. We already know that the fruits of the intelligence have been leaked by intelligence agencies for political reasons.

So the question we have to have now is whether the same people we know have been politically compromised in the past were actually being professional and apolitical in the surveillance of the Trump campaign they lied about doing.
Now I'm sure I've formatted that question in the most prejudicial way possible to make it sound like its a resolute 'no', but that possibility still exists, I don't deny it, its certainly plausible that Manafort, Flynn, Page, Trump Tower wiretaps, Unmasking- was all done above the board and with good reason and that the leaks were just one or two low level bad apples. The difference is that you're giving this presumption of innocence into an absurdly politically charged investigation where decades of cynical partisan politics surrounding watergate, whitewater, benghazi, hillary's emails, etc has shown us it would be naive to trust any actors with a clear political motivation.

We know the wiretapping occurred, we know it was used for political purposes, we know it was lied about. We don't know for sure whether it had a sinister political motivation or was just the product of people doing their jobs.
But I can tell you one thing- if people were acting in good faith, then the extraordinary step of conducting surveillance on the opposition party's campaign manager would have to be quarantined and removed from political spheres with extreme diligence, with something akin to a special counsel, because leaving even the appearance of malfeasance would be scandalous. Its the kind of conversation where they'd have to carefully weigh the toxicity of the step they are taking "Will this blow up on us? Are we so sure that Manafort is guilty of something that we'll spy on a political campaign?". Well apparently they weren't sure, and were on a fishing expedition, because a year on and no charges were produced, no indictment or incriminating evidence even after raiding his house, and now the probe is focusing on whether he committed financial crimes rather than anything within the scope of counterintelligence.