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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 10 2024 08:45pm)
Less meat for the meat grinder. I'm sure our fellow PaRDians who constantly lament the unnecessary casualties of this war will welcome this development. :unsure: :lol:


cavemen gonna caveman ^_^

Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 10 2024 03:21am)
Yeah there's footage showing what's pretty identifiable as a patriot battery, both control/radar and firing units in the field, and clearly not decoys since they are seen launching interceptors at the Iskanders just prior to being destroyed
besides the obvious question about the function of patriots being unable to shoot down subsonic missiles targeting them, their minimum use case, it does raise another point

These missile systems are almost assuredly crewed by Americans who are working unflagged, whether they are direct military officers operating as little green men, or contractors. The fact this Patriot battery got hit just as it fired means very high odds some American soldiers just got killed by Russia and we're not going to hear the US admit it, our government will keep us in the dark and cover up our losses in this conflict. Hope the families understand


i definitely think there are americans on the ground in ukraine, but i guarantee its NOT enlisted soldiers

you cant cover up losses there, when one of these guys gets killed or hurt you need an explanation, thats why private security contractors became the shit

the only forces you could use are special units like navy seals, but there is no way valuable special forces are running around there
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Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 9 2024 09:21pm)
These missile systems are almost assuredly crewed by Americans who are working unflagged, whether they are direct military officers operating as little green men, or contractors.


Yup.
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Oct 10 2024 09:01am)
Conjecture based on zero evidence. You think after nearly 3 years, Ukrainians can't operate their own AA system? .


Its not theirs.
Zero evidence? Ya fam, i aint gona be able to link you a msm article saying that a bunch of Americans died operating weapons systems in ukraine against russia. But if you knew how these systems worked and the training involved..
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Oct 10 2024 08:38pm)
you cant cover up losses there, when one of these guys gets killed or hurt you need an explanation,


Lol'd

Its called casualty laundering. Helicopter accidents are a regular occurrence stateside dontchya know

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Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 11 Oct 2024 02:38)
cavemen gonna caveman ^_^


Quote (El1te @ 10 Oct 2024 20:44)
Is this Muslims blood feuding with other Muslims?
I'd like to see any rational argument that these people should be allowed to govern themselves


To be fair, Chechens and Dagestanis are particularly lowlife, even by the standards of Muslim troublemakers.
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Oct 10 2024 10:15pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Oct 10 2024 07:38pm)
cavemen gonna caveman ^_^

i definitely think there are americans on the ground in ukraine, but i guarantee its NOT enlisted soldiers
you cant cover up losses there, when one of these guys gets killed or hurt you need an explanation, thats why private security contractors became the shit
the only forces you could use are special units like navy seals, but there is no way valuable special forces are running around there


The leaked US documents listed ~100 active military in Ukraine secretly but that was earlier in the war before we started sending long range missiles
There are definitely special forces operating in Ukraine, but almost certainly behind the front lines. Some as actual instructors, but pretty surely operating some systems too. And Russia has been overtly targeting American forces in Ukraine. Did any 'NATO instructors' die in the Poltova bombing? Here's the better question- if they die, do you really think we'd find out, or would they just cover up losses?

These are the same guys who brought us the White Helmets in Syria. Its not hard for them to cover up a few willing soldiers dying. The easiest method of all is to just not let the media report on it. Maybe the families know, and you can bring it to a newsdesk like the NYT or WaPo and they'll put it in a drawer and wait until you leave the room and call their CIA contact and tell them about the security risk.

Russia has definitely captured multiple western irregulars already, but the absence of active military really points to them being restricted to behind the lines, but they've still got to have taken losses with all these long range bombardments hitting advanced weapons systems, training centers, command centers, etc. And we still don't even acknowledge that we have forces operating in the country even though that's common knowledge and leaked papers confirming it, so its not surprising we don't cop to the losses
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Quote (El1te @ Oct 10 2024 07:44pm)
Is this Muslims blood feuding with other Muslims?

I'd like to see any rational argument that these people should be allowed to govern themselves


Welcome to the Russian federation, soon to be Iraq post Saddam 2.0
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Oct 10 2024 11:04pm)
Welcome to the Russian federation, soon to be Iraq post Saddam 2.0


I mean people say that Putin is this ruthless dictator who wants to Russify everything he can but he let's these Muslim savages have regional autonomy.. doesn't add up
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Quote (El1te @ Oct 11 2024 04:20pm)
I mean people say that Putin is this ruthless dictator who wants to Russify everything he can but he let's these Muslim savages have regional autonomy.. doesn't add up


You're making one idea the hostage of another. Putin is a proven dictator actively and openly Russifying independent countries surrounding Russia.

The Kremlin essentially pays off Kadyrovtp act as a strongman and keep Chechnya pacified.
The Chechens let Putin remain, not the other way around.
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Quote (El1te @ 11 Oct 2024 17:20)
I mean people say that Putin is this ruthless dictator who wants to Russify everything he can but he let's these Muslim savages have regional autonomy.. doesn't add up


Russia waged two major and costly wars against Chechnya, with the end result being that a brutal dictator (Kadyrow) came into power and keeps a lid on the powder keg, in return enjoys a high degree of regional autonomy. As long as Kadyrow can keep the region stable, the Kremlin looks the other way with regard to his human rights violations and the occasional moments when Kadyrow's power goes to his head. But make no mistake: as soon as Kadyrow becomes illoyal to Putin or fails to keep his end of the bargain, he will get "replaced".
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 11 2024 05:05pm)
Russia waged two major and costly wars against Chechnya, with the end result being that a brutal dictator (Kadyrow) came into power and keeps a lid on the powder keg, in return enjoys a high degree of regional autonomy. As long as Kadyrow can keep the region stable, the Kremlin looks the other way with regard to his human rights violations and the occasional moments when Kadyrow's power goes to his head. But make no mistake: as soon as Kadyrow becomes illoyal to Putin or fails to keep his end of the bargain, he will get "replaced".


The kremlin could withdraw the money from Kadyrov. I doubt any part of the Russian miltary minus the Kadyrovites could march into any part of the caucusus' and forcefully replace anyone.

They couldn't remove a comedian from Kiev a few hundred miles away from Moscow.

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