Every single country on this planet has far right nationalists. UK is famous for inventing and exporting the latest neo nazi Stone Island fashion. It’s part of a natural cycle of life and distribution within your population. From green haired eco activists throwing soup on paintings and supporting the latest Palestine cause to dimwitted NAFO couch warriors to jacked far right nazis committing hate crimes with their Dr Martens boots.

Arming Neo Nazis with advanced weapons and letting them literally run a country and rename cities and streets to honor Waffen SS is where any reasonable and sane person should draw the line. We tried this in Europe in 1930, arming German Nazis to fight communists for us and that did not work out well in the end as we all know. We are repeating the same mistake arming Neo Nazis in Ukraine to fight the Russians. It simply cannot end well in any of the multiverses you can imagine.

Invading neighbouring countries is not where we should draw the line?

Just to clarify.

Comrade you don't get to draw lines if a country that's powerful enough decides to resist your geo-political ambitions.

Unless you're so arrogant that you believe you can (NATO)

Tony Blair and the likes opened a Pandora’s box full of horrors by invading several countries under false pretenses, so I guess invading countries without UN SC approval is de facto accepted in 2024.

Or do we stand by rules for thee, not for me?

This post was edited by Malopox on Oct 6 2024 01:26pm

It honestly looks like you are grasping at straws here as you got too invested into an area you have very shallow understanding of. Posting random articles you found on the internet hoping that something sticks to the proverbial wall is a sign of desperation.

If you google any of those names mentioned they seem extremely fringe, never held any sway over Russian domestic or foreign politics and either got disposed of or are in jail since 2008 (OB88) or disbanded altogether(Moving Together disbanded in 2007 Nashi disbanded in 2012. Both were never Neo Nazi btw, just you average boyscout youth movements). They never had any power and got dealt with during their short existence according to Russian laws if they broke any.

It seems that many of those that did not appreciate being thrown in jail for beating up jews and immigrants - fled to Ukraine to join the likes of Azov where they could spread the message of hate and racial bigotry unabated.

This post was edited by Malopox on Oct 6 2024 02:07pm

Oh those random articles are just the tip of the iceberg. I have no interest in further educating the ignorant in Russias neo-nazi problem; Its pure pleasure for me to point out the hypocrisy of Putins stated war aim of De-nazifying Ukraine, given that the Kremlin regime is the most similar regime to the third Reich of any developed nation.

No, as I've stated before I didn't agree with the occupation of Iraq. I did believe removing Saddam was necessary.
Given that Putin failed to remove Zelensky, an elected president. And is thus simply occupying Ukraine's territory. I am equally opposed to the pointless death on both sides. But the vatniks that signed up for their 30k get no sympathy.
There is a pattern for the regime change I am in favour of; Unelected tyrants fit the bill. Saddam, Gaddafi, Assad, Mullahs. They can go as far as I am concerned. Putin has pencilled himself into the mould by his choice of foreign policy and his failure
to relinquish power for multiple decades.

Just to clarify, your fine with buying resources from a regime that doesn't hold meaningful elections and invades its neighbours; But your not ok with supporting an ally against that type of aggression?
That is your position?


This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Oct 6 2024 02:20pm

None of those I posted were in jail or deposed, all of them were killed or wounded in the invasion of Ukraine; Or during the Russian instigated war in the Donbas pre 2022.

Did you even fact check what you just posted in the slightest?

Its is regrettable that you lost your interest so soon. Is it because you ran out of shit to sling and couldn’t figure out how to get out of your predicament with logic and facts?

As per my previous post, denazification term is quite nuanced and defined in a different way than you describe here. I even sent you full description in PM in case you don’t remember. Be a good sport and look it up before getting all righteous and triggered.

The question was about illegal invasions, not whether you agreed occupation was just or not. You dodged and are trying to twist yourself out of this yet again. I bet half of the India has a chip on their shoulder with British Monarchy and wishes them bloody death - that doesn’t give them right to invade and do as they wish.

Saddam was definitely no angel and it is estimated by western think tanks his regime caused up to 250k Iraqi deaths over decades of his rule. Guess what happened next? Millions dead and displaced because some guy in Scotland didn’t like Saddam. Did anybody ask Iraqis whether they prefer living under Saddam & Baath or would prefer to be sold as a sex slave to ISIS militants?

You are forgetting all other nations that Blair devastated for the fuck of it without asking local populace what they thought of their own leaders.

Moral posturing oversimplifies and dumbs down complex problems into an issue of right vs wrong, which makes little room for nuance and common sense.

I believe I even quoted what happened to everyone. Either irrelevant to start with or deposed of. What else would you consider fact checking? No one in Russia is naming streets after Kaminsky or celebrating RONA. You could blame Putin for trying to rebuild an empire and integrate hundreds of nationalities living in Russia, but these nationalities are allowed to speak and teach their own languages. Even for Ukranians - arguably - the safest spot to be right now is either Russia or United States. EU might eventually cave in and send men of fighting age back to the slaughter, while people that left to Russia or US are safe.

Have you considered picking up another hobby other than sharing your racism filled commentary on the internet? It comes across as shallow and moralistic and often misses the plot as you clearly have no experience in the subject matter being discussed and rely on the latest propaganda hit pieces in your argumentation which inevitably looks clumsy and flaccid.

This post was edited by Malopox on Oct 7 2024 12:07am

Check the links for the those Russian Neo-nazis I posted, its not that difficult. You click the link, you read the information?
I even quoted the article for what happened to at least two of them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Nekrasov
"On 22 April 2022, he died after his vehicle hit a landmine near Izium."

Here it is again for you.
Why are you so invested in downplaying Russias neo-nazi problem? Do you support Neo-nazis, just as long as their Russian?

Why is Ruscism such a conflicting narrative for Russians choosing to live in the opulent west? On one hand you all downplay and deflect its racist, fascist and warmongering tendencies; Yet at the same time apologise and attempt to justify the policies and wars that emerge from it?
Like a dirty scab you want to heal but can't help yourselfs from picking. I pity that existence.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Oct 7 2024 02:16am