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Oct 6 2024 12:19pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 6 2024 06:29pm)
I look at the larger picture. Israel is self-interested and not infected (at least not terminally like the west) with self-destructive cuckery, not yet. They have plenty of Haaretz types sure, but the fact Netanyahu is in power despite the attempts to cut off his balls and they've gone to war to save themselves from an existential threat instead of seeking a dialogue about restorative justice, seems to me Israel will do what it takes to survive.

European support is basically lost to Israel, what little remains of it will be severed in a generation, and the US is following that trend. Israel will be in need of major allies, and as western powers wane and their support dithers, where will they turn? Trump tried to build up a Sunni-Jewish alliance against the Shia powers that align with Russia, but China is attempting to bridge Sunni and Shia powers and Russia isn't particularly invested in Iran. A multipolar world opens up the potential for strange bedfellows.


How many Ultra nationalist groups do you think are active in Russia? How many of them are openly neo-nazi?

Take a swing a and a miss champ.
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Here is Mr Zelensky being shown around by Mr Biletsky who have famously said that he is seeking to unite the white people of the world on their crusade against semite led untermenschen. But Zelensky is a jew you might say! Well, it seems based on the latest narratives of the Third Assault brigade on Telegram - he will be made the scapegoat when all of this collapses, either exiled or physically exterminated while the likes of Mr Biletsky will take control to lead whatever remains of Ukraine on their final crusade. It is entirely possible that they will switch allegiances and fold into Russian forces like theChechens did.

Fun fact, Stanford quietly removed their page dedicated to Azov from their website:

https://cisac.fsi.stanford.edu/mappingmilitants/profiles/azov-battalion

https://archive.ph/2022.03.20-204321/https://cisac.fsi.stanford.edu/mappingmilitants/profiles/azov-battalion

get in line with the hype du jour, Nazis are good now or something. A little bit of old school racial hatred, working out with your totally non-gay brothers, wearing cool khakis and physical extermination of minorities is what you should be stanning for according to

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Oct 6 2024 12:32pm
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How many Ultra nationalist groups do you think are active in Russia? How many of them are openly neo-nazi?

Take a swing a and a miss champ.


Most of them got either exiled or physically exterminated around 2011-2013 (eg Tesak and his Restruct team). The infamous Denis Kapustin now leads one of the Russian Neo Nazi battalions under GRU fighting against Russians in Ukraine.



This post was edited by Malopox on Oct 6 2024 12:38pm
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https://i.imgur.com/rdyGWbV.jpeg
Here is Mr Zelensky being shown around by Mr Biletsky who have famously said that he is seeking to unite the white people of the world on their crusade against semite led untermenschen. But Zelensky is a jew you might say! Well, it seems based on the latest narratives of the Third Assault brigade on Telegram - he will be made the scapegoat when all of this collapses, either exiled or physically exterminated while the likes of Mr Biletsky will take control to lead whatever remains of Ukraine on their final crusade. It is entirely possible that they will switch allegiances and fold into Russian forces like theChechens did.

Fun fact, Stanford quietly removed their page dedicated to Azov from their website:

https://cisac.fsi.stanford.edu/mappingmilitants/profiles/azov-battalion

https://archive.ph/2022.03.20-204321/https://cisac.fsi.stanford.edu/mappingmilitants/profiles/azov-battalion

^Goomshill get in line with the hype du jour, Nazis are good now or something. A little bit of old school racial hatred, working out with your totally non-gay brothers, wearing cool khakis and physical extermination of minorities is what you should be stanning for according to ^prox1m1ty


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How many Ultra nationalist groups do you think are active in Russia? How many of them are openly neo-nazi?

Take a swing a and a miss champ.


Hell forget the fact Zelensky's inner circle was either meeting with neo nazis, beholden to them, or neo-nazis themselves
What I find more relevant is the part where Joe Biden was meeting with neo-nazis and shaking their hand and offering the full power of US support to them



If some folks in Cambodia still embraced Pol Pot's genocidal vision, I'd say, who the fuck cares, they're living in Cambodia. But if we started giving them tanks, stingers, artillery, armor, long range missiles, to facilitate the next killing fields, I'd say we have a big fucking problem.
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Oct 6 2024 12:56pm
This should be good. Glad to see so many denialists forming up for a daily slap down.
How about a Russian neo-nazi each day until the 3 months of Putins 995 day war are complete?
Shouldn't be too many more days... right?

How about we start with,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Imperial_Movement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Nekrasov
"On 22 April 2022, he died after his vehicle hit a landmine near Izium." :(

Lets double up today for good measure,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yan_Petrovsky
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rusich_Group
"in 2022 he took over as commander of the Group after the leader Alexey Milchakov was wounded near Kharkiv."

Remember, there are no Russian neo-nazis, and Russia does NOT, implicitly have a problem with neo-nazi ultranationalists, cyka.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Oct 6 2024 12:58pm
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Oct 6 2024 12:59pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Oct 6 2024 08:56pm)
This should be good. Glad to see so many denialists forming up for a daily slap down.
How about a Russian neo-nazi each day until the 3 months of Putins 995 day war are complete?
Shouldn't be too many more days... right?

How about we start with,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Imperial_Movement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Nekrasov_(Russian_nationalist)
"On 22 April 2022, he died after his vehicle hit a landmine near Izium." :(


How about starting with "Ukraine will join NATO" and arming literal nazis because that's what it actually started with ;)
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Oct 6 2024 01:01pm
https://www.latrobe.edu.au/news/articles/2022/opinion/russias-long-history-of-neo-nazis

"In 2014, RO’s Aleksandr Matyushin helped to terrorise supporters of the Ukrainian state in Donetsk on the eve of Russia’s proxy war in eastern Ukraine. He went on to become a major field commander."

Remember, no problem with neo-nazis here, whatsoever.
Its not neo-nazism if we call it managed nationalism comrade.

"Second, the Kremlin launched “managed nationalism”, an attempt to co-opt and mobilise radical nationalist militants, including neo-Nazis, as a counterweight to an emerging anti-Putin coalition of democrats and leftist radicals.
Moving Together, a pro-Putin youth organisation notorious for its campaign against postmodernist literature, made the first move by reaching out to OB88, the most powerful skinhead gang in Russia.
This cooperation expanded in the aftermath of Ukraine’s Orange Revolution of 2004. To insulate Russia against the contagion of pro-democracy protest, the Kremlin transformed Moving Together into a more ambitious project called “Nashi”, or “Ours”."

The genie is out of the bottle, can our resident reality deniers get him back in?

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Oct 6 2024 01:03pm
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Oct 6 2024 09:01pm)
https://www.latrobe.edu.au/news/articles/2022/opinion/russias-long-history-of-neo-nazis

"In 2014, RO’s Aleksandr Matyushin helped to terrorise supporters of the Ukrainian state in Donetsk on the eve of Russia’s proxy war in eastern Ukraine. He went on to become a major field commander."

Remember, no problem with neo-nazis here, whatsoever.
Its not neo-nazism if we call it managed nationalism comrade.


2008 NATO summit --> https://www.nato.int/docu/update/2008/04-april/e0403h.html

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NATO welcomes Georgia's and Ukraine's aspirations for membership


Ouch comrade
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*Laughs in opulent Westerner*
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Oct 6 2024 01:08pm
Politics in 2008:
"Gee I think forcing insurers to take people with preexisting conditions will drive up premiums far more than mandating healthy people to get it, but its still serving a humanitarian end, I just hope its not a catastrophic rollout"

Politics in 2024:
"We need another $50 billion package of heavy weaponry to ship to Nazi war criminals, and we'll imprison black power activists who attend peace protests as enemy collaborators"
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