Quote (El1te @ 30 Aug 2024 22:03)
They couldn't stop right now, without first dismantling the present illegitimate regime. When we invaded Germany, we didn't stop at the Treaty of Versailles borders, we went in to dismantle the regime. This seems pretty clear to me.
This is the third time that the Western host has attempted to invade and subjugate Russia. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, the 3rd invasion began. They don't hold any illusions about intentions from our side: the intention is to eradicate the Russian culture, a genocide. You can't just ignore the awful and abhorrent rhetoric against Vladimir Putin, the democratically elected Russian President. The rhetoric used against him is the rhetoric of conquest - "he's an evil dictator and must be stopped, Russia must be deputinified!" France tried, then Germany tried, now the USA & Western Europe under the NATO banner is trying, and failing for a 3rd time. To discuss this war without first acknowledging the aggressive expansion of NATO into Russian territory is disingenuous. I personally think we should leave Russia alone, engage in mutually beneficial trade & exchange of culture, be happy that the Soviet Union collapsed and be happy that Russia is making a genuine effort to rebuild their nation and Christian identity.
To state the obvious, an occupation of Ukraine is necessary to reform the country within the bounds of Russian Imperial law after a cease of hostilities, like every other war that ever ended in history. US troops are still occupying many nations today, 80 years later. The Russian people are not blind to the hypocrisy.
How exactly has the West 'invaded' Russia? And how exactly do you come to the conclusion that the West wants to eradicate Russian culture?
Putin is a murderous dictator who has brought war and misery to millions of people, some harsh rhetoric directed his way is only fair.
And where/when did NATO expand into
Russian territory?
If anything, it expanded into the territory of sovereign nations which had formerly been under Russian rule. Which is the exact reason why they couldn't wait to get under NATO's protective umbrella... But judging by the way you talk about subjecting Ukraine to "Russian imperial law", it seems kinda obvious that you somehow consider the dissolution of the Soviet Union to be illicit and Russia to still be legally and morally entitled to rule over its former empire.
Calling Russian soldiers orcs and such is a direct consequence of their invasion of Ukraine. If their troops hadn't needlessly invaded a sovereign nation and began committing war crimes against its civilian population, this rhetoric wouldn't exist. And even then, most commentators are still and well able to distinguish between Russian soldiers committing atrocities and Russia's civilian population.
This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Aug 31 2024 01:16am